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Laaca(R)

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Czech republic,
22.11.2007, 15:36
 

North Korean like paradox (Miscellaneous)

Do you know what is interresting?
We have at least two good, still developed DOS kernels, many active compilers but almost no living programs (or games) :-(
It is like in North Korea where they have quite good roads but no cars :-D

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DOS-u-akbar!

RayeR(R)

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CZ,
22.11.2007, 15:52

@ Laaca

North Korean like paradox

> Do you know what is interresting?
> We have at least two good, still developed DOS kernels, many active
> compilers but almost no living programs (or games) :-(
> It is like in North Korea where they have quite good roads but no cars :-D

Maybe there's no such motivation, we have a lot of old good working DOS sw. If it would be opened, then it may be updated by peoble but only few people would have time to develop some complex application from the scratch to reach such as good level than existing app and even make it better...

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Rugxulo(R)

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Usono,
22.11.2007, 16:53

@ Laaca

North Korean like paradox

> Do you know what is interesting?
> We have at least two good, still developed DOS kernels, many active
> compilers but almost no living programs (or games) :-(
> It is like in North Korea where they have quite good roads but no cars :-D

No new programs? UIDE, JEMMEX, p7zip, and yes many compilers and assemblers. If you think nothing is being written, then why are there so many "announcements"? :-D

Games? What, Dungeon Crawl:Stone Soup doesn't count? Or do you mean like 3D Doom-ish games or puzzle games? There's quite a few games (ahem, MegaBrutal's unfinished one). Why, do you want to request one? Maybe I can point you to a good, free one. :-)

RayeR(R)

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CZ,
22.11.2007, 17:14

@ Rugxulo

North Korean like paradox

> No new programs? UIDE, JEMMEX, p7zip, and yes many compilers and

He probably though about user SW, not system tools and drivers (can be mentioned part of DOS).

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Laaca(R)

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Czech republic,
23.11.2007, 07:26

@ RayeR

North Korean like paradox

> > No new programs? UIDE, JEMMEX, p7zip, and yes many compilers and
>
> He probably though about user SW, not system tools and drivers (can be
> mentioned part of DOS).

Exactly!

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DOS-u-akbar!

iw2evk(R)

Magenta (Italy),
23.11.2007, 13:15

@ Laaca

North Korean like paradox

Actually no new programs are released on this categories:

- image converters (last are pictview and imagemagik ..i think)

- paint programs for dos

- spreadsheeth

(i know only some commercial adbandoned version..)

If you know new version of this categories , please inform me..

iw2evk
Roberto

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US,
24.11.2007, 06:38

@ iw2evk

North Korean like paradox

> Actually no new programs are released on this categories:
>
> - image converters (last are pictview and imagemagik ..i think)

> If you know new version of this categories , please inform me..

bmp2png and png2bmp (2005)
Home page: http://cetus.sakura.ne.jp/softlab/b2p-home/

NConvert
DOS (2002)
Win32 command line (2007)
Home page: http://come.to/xnview

pngcrush - Optimizes PNGs (2007)
Home page: http://pmt.sourceforge.net/pngcrush/index.html
File Releases: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=1689

Rugxulo(R)

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Usono,
26.11.2007, 18:23
(edited by Rugxulo, 26.11.2007, 18:49)

@ Steve

North Korean like paradox

Well, stupid forum timed out so I lost my post (and browser didn't save it, doh).

Pixel ($$$)
Artie
PacePlayer
Display
sprite, palette, image editors; BMP <-> GIF <-> JPG converter; BMP compressor

Spreadsheet programs? I dunno, try either Visicalc or GNUish sc.

Rugxulo(R)

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Usono,
26.11.2007, 18:38
(edited by Rugxulo, 26.11.2007, 18:48)

@ Rugxulo

North Korean like paradox

BTW, North Korea (according to yesterday's Parade magazine) doesn't even allow Internet access. :surprised: Sounds like fun. :no:

P.S. Forgot about Powerpaint, VGAPaint/386, and TinyPaint (screenshot drawn by yours truly, heh). :-P And I'm sure there are others. (Apparently the DOS community is less organized than its penguin brethren, so we don't always know "whats new" etc.)

iw2evk(R)

Magenta (Italy),
05.12.2007, 13:16

@ Rugxulo

North Korean like paradox

> P.S. Forgot about
> Powerpaint,
> VGAPaint/386, and
> TinyPaint (screenshot drawn by yours
> truly, heh). :-P And I'm sure there are others. (Apparently the DOS
> community is less organized than its penguin brethren, so we don't always
> know "whats new" etc.)

For spreadsheeth i've found As easy as in shareware :

ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/spreadsheet/asa57d.zip

Unfortunaly no source is disponible on web (but the program it's quite adbandonedware..)

P.s. the others programs suggested it's all without new release and some years older (ie. i've contacted the support of pace player at his home page without result)..

The north corean paradox strike again : a lots of program with source but non manteined (like cars without spare parts..)

Roberto iw2evk

Rugxulo(R)

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Usono,
05.12.2007, 14:23

@ iw2evk

North Korean like paradox

> P.s. the others programs suggested it's all without new release and some
> years older (ie. i've contacted the support of pace player at his home
> page without result)..
>
> The north corean paradox strike again : a lots of program with source but
> non manteined (like cars without spare parts..)

Some people think "The source is available, so you modify it, I'm too busy." Others refuse to use DOS anymore because it ain't 1337 ("leet") enough for them. Others just really are too busy. Others are so stuck in their *nix ways that they refuse to budge an inch for DOS (sadly).

EDIT: Also, since Windows isn't nearly as DOS compatible as it used to be, people can't use old DOS software, and many authors only write what is useful for them (e.g. Odi's LFN tools, abandoned by him since he no longer uses Win98).

rr(R)

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Berlin, Germany,
05.12.2007, 17:53

@ iw2evk

North Korean like paradox

> For spreadsheeth i've found As easy as in shareware :
>
> ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/spreadsheet/asa57d.zip
>
> Unfortunaly no source is disponible on web (but the program it's quite
> adbandonedware..)

From AS-EASY-AS for DOS:
"This product has been discontinued, and is no longer available or supported, but if some user has a copy of the product they can register it using the product # 570-110-0424-3 There is no need to purchase anything."

Steve(R)

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US,
05.12.2007, 19:54

@ iw2evk

North Korean like paradox

> For spreadsheeth i've found As easy as in shareware :

Now completely free, including license keys, for DOS & Windows.

> ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/spreadsheet/asa57d.zip
>
> Unfortunaly no source is disponible on web (but the program it's quite
> adbandonedware..)

No longer in development, but files are available from the original publisher, and there is a user forum.

Publisher's home page: http://www.triusinc.com/
File descriptions + downloads: http://www.triusinc.com/latest.htm
More downloads: http://www.triusinc.com/zips/
Forum: http://trius.newsgrouphosting.com/trius.aseasyas

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