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posted by Rugxulo(R) Homepage, Usono, 21.09.2018, 13:27

> > I guess those are similar in nature to
> > Aruba, Saint Eustatius, etc?
>
> I've never been there. But afaik on most Dutch island, the "other" language
> is more likely to be English, not Spanish. Papiamento (a creole language
> with afaik a lot of Portuguese influences) is afaik spoken a lot on the
> larger islands, Aruba and Curacao.

I meant they're separate territories, not that they speak Spanish.

> On some of the Dutch islands (like Dutch part of Saint Martin) hardly any
> Dutch is spoken at all.

Huh, apparently only 300 km (190 mi) away from Puerto Rico. Wait, France owns half? Sounds like the whole Cuba debacle (and U.S. naval base). What could go wrong?? :-P Yup, apparently named after the same Saint Martin that Luther was named after.

> > (Doesn't even the Netherlands have some
> > ancient history with the kingdom of Spain?)
>
> Didn't have the colonies have some spat with the British over tea? :-D

A four-year president over here makes everyone lose their minds. I don't know how the British are so sane after having one monarch for 60 years. Honestly, it shouldn't be that PTSD-inducing, but people just can't help (even 1+1/2 years later) constantly going crazy over it, ugh. (The media never shuts up and corrupts every corner, it's extremely aggravating.) So yeah, I pity the inevitable uproar in transition to King Charles. The British press is considered even more hostile than U.S. (which I find doubtful). I don't understand the gossip obsession with the royals. I like trivia but only innocent stuff, all the other nonsense is boring.

> Strictly speaking only the problem was Phillips II, so the King, not Spain
> itself.
>
> But he ruled from Spain with much less feeling for local sensitivities than
> his father Charles V(who grew up in Ghent). So it happened that the
> Habsburg treasury was empty, and he raised extra taxes in the richest part
> of his realm (Flanders). At the same time he also stepped up Protestant
> prosecutions and one thing led to another. Some things were said, some
> people were executed, and you have a revolt on your hands.

Very little dispute is religious in nature these days. Religion has little power, at least in the States. Mostly it's secular powers warring against each other (or at least progressives trying to upend the patriarchy/status quo, often equated to liberals/Democrats versus conservatives/Republicans). But yes, many people actively hate religion, and they are dangerous when given power.

Nowadays everyone has a persecution complex. It's very stressful trying to avoid such topics (and people) when it invades every corner of public life. Some people can't take a hint! I'm basically apolitical, but there are many people who have serious anger issues and an axe to grind. It's a very dangerous world, and those who fight against their so-called "enemies" are often worse! Honestly, I'm not joking, this proves (to me) that the U.S. needs much better access to mental health care coverage!

> > But maybe you don't even like that style of music, who knows.
>
> Hard rock was more in decline in 1990 here, though with a few exceptions
> (like GnR). Alternative was moving up, and the rave movement ran full tilt.
>
> More so than in the US(at least, judging by MTV US VMA that I watched in
> that time).

Yes, grunge and alternative mostly displaced classic rock or metal. It's somewhat annoying that so much good music was discarded entirely with no outlet for it.

But MTV isn't an indication of much. Even in the '90s, their showing of videos was declining. Tastes changed, so a lot of artists got pushed aside. Even later, "MTV" literally stopped representing "Music Television" (they explicitly changed it to just be a meaningless acronym). And channels like MTV2, once considered an outlet for music proper, quickly changed their tune, too. Even websites like MTV Hive (or whatever) stopped having videos (but probably for licensing reasons). Even YouTube (and Vevo?) originally wanted to host all music videos but didn't due to copyright (Viacom dispute??). Granted, I don't care for videos anyways and consider them a waste of effort.

(As an aside, the '90s sucked. I'd hear incomplete/chopped songs on the radio, e.g. VH's "Humans Being", as well as way too many greatest hits compilations from all labels for all artists, often with chopped songs. Even videos like VH's "Don't Tell Me" were chopped. The whole climate of consumerism or whatever was very rude to artistic integrity. You can have decent mixes/edits sometimes, but overall it's considered "bad". So yeah, that always bugged me.)

> Maybe they simply only got specialist venues, and since i didn't live in a
> major city at the time....

They probably didn't have proper management or tour support or record label support or whatever. I don't know the details. They probably burned out or maybe had other priorities. I'm just glad some of it was preserved for posterity. They had a lot of good songs, so it's a shame they weren't better recognized. But I never cared for concerts anyways, always preferred live CDs or whatnot. They did make one live album, but so far I'm only listening to internet radio.

 

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