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Jack R. Ellis

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07.11.2007, 12:28
 

DELETE My Drivers! (Miscellaneous)

I have a direct request for you.

Please DELETE all "links" to XMGR, UIDE and SHCDX33C from your BTTR website.

I no-longer want my work associated in any way with you.

Jack

07.11.2007, 18:53

@ Jack R. Ellis
 

DELETE My Drivers (2nd Try)!!

At 03:28 7-Nov-2007 California time, I asked you to DELETE all "links" to my
drivers from your BTTR website.

Now, it is 6.5 hours later, and your "links" have NOT been deleted. So, it
is necessary to REPEAT a direct request to you:

Please DELETE all "links" to XMGR, UIDE and SHCDX33C from your BTTR website.

I no-longer want my work associated in any way with you. As D.I.s tell all
new recruits at Parris Island, "The Marines are looking for a few good men -
and YOU AIN'T IT!!"

Jack

07.11.2007, 19:43

@ Jack
 

DELETE My Drivers (3nd Try)!!

... yawn ...

Jack

07.11.2007, 21:20

@ Jack
 

The LIARS Club!!

Needless to say, the previous one-word "Yawn" posting WAS NOT by me, and
represents only a bald-faced attempt by some absolute CRETIN to continue
"Stirring up SH*T", as I have come to expect from those on this forum!

"Well, this is just a little Peyton Place, and you're all Harper Valley
HYPOCRITES!!", SAME as before, and always.

Jack R. Ellis

08.11.2007, 10:06

@ Jack
 

Grech, The ADMITTED "S*** Disturber".

> So feel free to detect 1000 evil intentions in that post.

Zu Befehl, Herr Oberst!

Jack

07.11.2007, 21:25

@ Jack
 

And By The Way, FOOL ...

And by the way, FOOL, since I did NOT "Sleep Thru High-School" as I expect
you did, there is NO such "3nd" numerical abbreviation in English. There
IS an abbreviation "3rd", of which you would be AWARE, FOOL, if you stayed
awake in whatever English classes were presented to you ...

Jack

07.11.2007, 21:46

@ Jack
 

And ALSO

Before you FOOLS mention it, - yes I FAILED Lady Manners School, but I DID pass TOP DOG School of Obedience.

That makes ME the "top dog" who you should all WORSHIP.

Too bad it didn't teach me to use my BRAIN and register my NICKNAME on forums where I don't want people to use it, or TEACH me HOW to TYPE for THAT matter.

Jack R. Ellis

07.11.2007, 22:28

@ Jack
 

FAILED English AGAIN, FOOL ...

Needless to say, the preceding post also WAS NOT by me, since I absolutely
NEVER use only one "dash" to separate side comments from my main sentence,
and I absolutely NEVER use dashes following a COMMA!!

Not required, and BAD FORM, as you certainly would know, FOOL, whoever you really are, if you had not FAILED English AGAIN!!

Steve(R)

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07.11.2007, 23:37

@ Jack R. Ellis
 

FAILED English AGAIN, FOOL ...

> Needless to say, the preceding post also WAS NOT by me, since I absolutely
> NEVER use only one "dash" to separate side comments from my main
> sentence,
> and I absolutely NEVER use dashes following a COMMA!!

Do I understand correctly then, that you consciously and deliberately type the way you do? Fabulous! You are now my favorite comedian here, your competitors are nothing.

> Not required, and BAD FORM, as you certainly would know, FOOL, whoever you
> really are, if you had not FAILED English AGAIN!!

Fabulous!

Jack

08.11.2007, 00:15

@ Steve
 

GREETINGS, Steve ...

In our great 1993 "The Three Musketeers", there is a scene where a troop of
the Cardinal's Guards rides out to arrest the Musketeers, after having been
thrashed by the Musketeers before. Athos (Kiefer Sutherland) says "Only a
FOOL would try to arrest us twice in one day!" just before the troop leader
declares "You're under arrest!" Porthos (Oliver Platt) and Aramis (Charlie
Sheen) both look at each other and exclaim "The FOOL!!" ...

GREETINGS, Steve! Nice to hear from you, again! Need any further English
lessons, do you?? Always happy to help those who "Slept" in previous years
and need a bit of "help" now ...

Steve(R)

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08.11.2007, 01:11

@ Jack
 

GREETINGS, Steve ...

> In our great 1993 "The Three Musketeers", there is a scene

Is that one of those, what do you call them... movies?

> GREETINGS, Steve! Nice to hear from you, again!

Hi Jacko, nice to hear from you too.

> Need any further English lessons, do you??

Not from you, Sweetheart. But thanks for asking.

> Always happy to help those who "Slept" in previous years
> and need a bit of "help" now ...

Fabulous! True to form, as always. Don't ever change, you're perfect the way you are.

Jack

08.11.2007, 08:20

@ Jack R. Ellis
 

DELETE My Drivers (Final Try)!

At 03:28 7-Nov-2007 California time, I asked you to DELETE all "links" to my
drivers from your BTTR website.

Now, it is almost a full day later, and your "links" have NOT been deleted.

Is it really necessary for me to ask Johnson Lam to TAKE DOWN his website's
posting for my drivers?? Because you either cannot READ, or cannot follow
my wishes as AUTHOR of those drivers that I DO NOT WANT THEM on your site??

I will again REPEAT a direct request to you:

Please DELETE all "links" to XMGR, UIDE and SHCDX33C from your BTTR website.

Jack R. Ellis

08.11.2007, 16:42

@ Jack R. Ellis
 

For Your Info ...

RR:

For your info, the following --

-------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 07:04:25
To: Johnson <johnson@tmfc.net>
Subject: Please DELETE My Drivers From Your Site.

Johnson,

Due to further problems caused by insufferable Germans and by
unnamed individuals likely from America, I have now requested
3 times that Robert Riebisch DELETE the links from his "BTTR"
site to the XMGR/UIDE and SHCDX33C drivers here.

Riebisch has not done so, nor has he acknowledged my requests
in any way. Therefore, with much regret, I must ask you to
TAKE DOWN all files relating to the XMGR and UIDE drivers and
the SHCDX33C Redirector program from your website.

It is sad that Mr. Riebisch is unable to respect my wishes as
AUTHOR of those drivers, and I refuse to tolerate the kind of
ABUSE that he allows a few members of his BTTR forum to throw
at me. I am tired of "BTTR", thus this action is necessary.

You are free to provide the drivers privately to your friends
at the China DOS Union and to others throughout Asia, at your
sole discretion, and I will continue my own arrangements with
a few good friends, as well. However, I no-longer desire a
"public" offering of my work from your site.

I regret having to take this action.

Jack R. Ellis

sol(R)

08.11.2007, 17:16

@ Jack R. Ellis
 

For Your Info ...

Jack,

If you're sick of the forum - please, for the love of God, spare us your insufferable whining and leave.

I'm sure RR will delete the driver links in due time.

Jack

08.11.2007, 17:39

@ sol
 

For Your Info ...

> I'm sure RR will delete the driver links in due time.

Oh, REALLY?? Well, after over 24 hours, 3 different requests by me, and
not ONE DAMNED WORD from him, it should be obvous to everyone (but IDIOTS
like you, I suppose), that other actions were in fact NECESSARY!!

As for your other comments -- Zu Befehl, Herr Oberst! :-D

sol(R)

08.11.2007, 18:38
(edited by sol, 08.11.2007, 20:11)

@ Jack
 

For Your Info ...

> > I'm sure RR will delete the driver links in due time.
>
> Oh, REALLY?? Well, after over 24 hours, 3 different requests by me, and
> not ONE DAMNED WORD from him, it should be obvous to everyone (but IDIOTS
> like you, I suppose), that other actions were in fact NECESSARY!!
>
> As for your other comments -- Zu Befehl, Herr Oberst! :-D

I'm Canadian, not German or Nazi; the two of which are not as linked as you suggest. Just because a bunch of people are German or don't tolerate the behavior of someone who acts like a whiny, mentally incapacitated child does not imply they're Nazi. That's a huge insult to everyone who lived through the war and especially inconsiderate with remembrance day so near.

Why should RR rush to serve you, anyway? You're continually rude and disrespectful.

Jack

08.11.2007, 20:24

@ Jack
 

For YOUR Info!

From a note I sent to Lucho and Khusraw, as they might be "interested":

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Re: "Sol", note that he admits to being Canadian, and note his comment
about "Remembrance Day". If we can believe Riebisch about the prior
work by "Sol", and as I have had to "deal with" EXACTLY those types of
sentiments about a year ago, I can offer a probable "identity" for our
friend "Sol": **** *******!! ["Approximate" size of his name!]

I had planned to reply to "Sol" about my country ALSO having lost many
who will be "remembered" on 11-Nov-2007, our "Veteran's Day". I also
had planned to tell "Sol" about my Jewish Uncle who survived Auschwitz
and still REFUSES to have his S.S. serial-number removed from his left
forearm, as he does NOT want to FORGET seeing his Father/Mother/Sister
sent to the OVENS!!

["Sol?"] has heard all that from me before, WITH my considered opinion
that he (like SO many other Canadians/Gringos!) suffers from what many
psychiatrists call the "Pollyanna Syndrome". "Pollyanna", played by
Hayley Mills in the 1959 Disney film, was a girl raised only to Hearts
and Flowers, and was thus UNABLE to handle lifes ADVERSITIES when they
occurred later. Such people flatly CRACK UP mentally, and "shrinks"
(psyhiatrists, often called "head shrinkers"!) make their LIVINGS thru
treating such cracked-up cases! ["Sol?"] rejected that as well, thus
there is no need for me to repeat it with him, again.

So, since they all believe me to be a racist and a "mental case", I'll
just be silent and exit the BTTR forum, with a "Zu Befehl" and a click
of my heels to ["Sol?"] as I go!

sol(R)

08.11.2007, 20:33

@ Jack
 

For YOUR Info!

I don't know who your guess is, but it's not me :) I wasn't aware you existed 6 months ago, let alone a year. My original post to you a few weeks ago is the first of such.

If you've got Jewish relatives who suffered in the war, then you should be doubly ashamed of yourself. You're comparing people who don't like you on an online forum (because you're a rude buffoon, not because of whatever race you may be) to people who tortured and killed people based on race.

The only similarity between you and the Jews, and me and Nazis, is that I would gladly tattoo "idiot" on your forehead.

Jack

08.11.2007, 21:00

@ Jack
 

NOT Ashamed, NOT AT ALL!!

I am not ashamed to say that, based on my Uncle's sad history, I will always
be WARY of those who ACT like Nazis -- NOT the entire nation of Germany, but
only guys who ACT like Nazis -- AND their so easily-led "faithful dogs" from
Canada and the U.S.A., whose "Right to unbridled ATTACKS" are in fact RUINING
"free" software!

DO offer your "help" to Martin Rayer, and I will shelve my 6-byte update for
UIDE. As Clint Eastwood said in his "Heartbreak Ridge" [1985], "Don't give
the BASTARD the SATISFACTION!", meaning YOU, dear "Sol", whoever-in-HELL you
really are!

sol(R)

08.11.2007, 21:11

@ Jack
 

NOT Ashamed, NOT AT ALL!!

> I am not ashamed to say that, based on my Uncle's sad history, I will
> always
> be WARY of those who ACT like Nazis -- NOT the entire nation of Germany,
> but
> only guys who ACT like Nazis -- AND their so easily-led "faithful dogs"
> from
> Canada and the U.S.A., whose "Right to unbridled ATTACKS" are in fact
> RUINING
> "free" software!

See my previous post regarding these stupid comparisons.

> DO offer your "help" to Martin Rayer, and I will shelve my 6-byte update
> for
> UIDE. As Clint Eastwood said in his "Heartbreak Ridge" [1985], "Don't
> give
> the BASTARD the SATISFACTION!", meaning YOU, dear "Sol", whoever-in-HELL
> you
> really are!

You no longer releasing your drivers is not my problem, as I don't use them. So if you going away means you're taking your drivers with you, so be it, I'll be happy to see you gone, since it seems obvious you've no ability to remain rational.

If you had been rational in my original (or UIDE) post to you, I'd have no problem with you. Are you really so socially inept that you don't understand this?

sol(R)

08.11.2007, 21:16

@ sol
 

NOT Ashamed, NOT AT ALL!!

Since I already know the answer to the question I asked at the end of the previous post...here are two completely different responses to my post regarding UPX compression of UIDE:

"The risk is pretty circumstancial & minimal, so I'm going to stick to keeping it compressed."

or

"Good point, 1k is really nothing when it adds [minimal or very circumstancial] risk and anyone who wants to can compress it themselves, I guess there's no need to compress it."

Either of those answers would've resulted in "Hrmm, okay, sounds good." by me.

While you may not have slept through grammar, spelling or sentence structure english classes, I'm quite certain you missed any portion regarding "communication", which is not a form of precise math.

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08.11.2007, 22:06

@ Jack
 

For YOUR Info!

> Re: "Sol", note that he admits to being Canadian,

"Admits"? Is it illegal or immoral, something he would normally be expected to be ashamed of and to conceal?

> and note his comment about "Remembrance Day".

What's wrong with that? Does it belong only to you?

> I had planned to reply to "Sol" about my country ALSO having lost many
> who will be "remembered" on 11-Nov-2007, our "Veteran's Day". I also
> had planned to tell "Sol" about my Jewish Uncle who survived Auschwitz
> and still REFUSES to have his S.S. serial-number removed from his left
> forearm, as he does NOT want to FORGET seeing his Father/Mother/Sister
> sent to the OVENS!!

The BTTR Forum is not world War II. RR did not send your relatives to the ovens.

> "Pollyanna", played by
> Hayley Mills in the 1959 Disney film, was a girl raised only to Hearts
> and Flowers

Another one of those movies that just keep going 'round and 'round in your head. Guess what, Jacko! We're not in a movie here.

> So, since they all believe me to be a racist and a "mental case", I'll
> just be silent and exit the BTTR forum.

You are a racist and a mental case, and that's why you won't go. You'll be too afraid that someone will say something behind your back, and you'll need to be ready to counterattack.

But instead of putting yourself and us through this melodrama without end, why don't you just take your medicine on schedule and chill out?

Jack

08.11.2007, 22:47

@ Jack
 

"Responses".

Had "Sol" been willing to admit that his "Everyone else will now have to locate/download UPX to decompress" is FLATLY WRONG, and had he not found
two purported (likely obscure) UPX bugs concerning DOS .EXE files, NOT a
.SYS file that is an absolute-image, i.e. if "Sol" were able to admit he
is also FLATLY WRONG in THAT case, as well, I would have let that thread
end there.

Ah, but I forgot: Nothing I say is right, and nothing "Sol" says is WRONG!

Zu Befehl, Herr Oberst! :-D

Steve(R)

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08.11.2007, 23:08

@ Jack
 

"Responses".

> Had "Sol" been willing to admit that his "Everyone else will now have to
> locate/download UPX to decompress" is FLATLY WRONG, and had he not found
> two purported (likely obscure) UPX bugs concerning DOS .EXE files, NOT a
> .SYS file that is an absolute-image, i.e. if "Sol" were able to admit he
> is also FLATLY WRONG in THAT case, as well, I would have let that thread
> end there.

sol was right: UPX is needed to decompress a compressed executable. If sol had written that UPX is required to run a packed executable, then you would be right - but sol didn't write that, so you are wrong.

> Ah, but I forgot: Nothing I say is right, and nothing "Sol" says is
> WRONG!

In all cases, it helps to quote correctly and respond to what is actually said. But that's apparently not interesting for you.

> Zu Befehl, Herr Oberst!

If you want to see someone with the mind of a storm trooper, look in a mirror.

avoskov(R)

08.11.2007, 23:29

@ Jack
 

"Responses".

> Had "Sol" been willing to admit that his "Everyone else will now have to
> locate/download UPX to decompress" is FLATLY WRONG, and had he not found
> two purported (likely obscure)
If you mean decompression just into RAM, UPX is not needed. But if somebody wants do decompress the driver INTO FILE, then UPX is definetly needed. About UPX and drivers:
I've tried to pack some MZ-style DOS drivers (USBASPI.SYS, DI1000DD.SYS, ASPI.SYS) with UPX - sometimes effect was unpredictable (especially when DEVICEHIGH=...); when 15Kb driver expands to 45-50Kb it can damage some UMBs. But in your case risk is minimal...
P.S. I don't understand the reason for flamewar - sources are opened, everybody can make non-UPXed version.

Jack R. Ellis

08.11.2007, 23:56

@ avoskov
 

Absolutely Correct.

> If you mean decompression just into RAM, UPX is not needed. But if
> somebody wants to decompress the driver INTO A FILE, UPX is definitely
> needed.

Absolutely correct.

> About UPX and drivers: I've tried to pack some MZ-style DOS drivers
> (USBASPI.SYS, DI1000DD.SYS, ASPI.SYS) with UPX -- sometimes effect was
> unpredictable (especially with DEVICEHIGH=...); when 15Kb driver expands
> to 45-50Kb it can damage some UMBs. But in your case risk is minimal...

Also absolutely correct, and exactly the point I tried to make in my FIRST
post about UIDE now being offered in "packed" form. Users who load UIDE
through the CONFIG.SYS file, directly after DOS is booted and when it has
plenty of available memory, should have NO problems. Users who load UIDE
at a time AFTER the CONFIG.SYS file is run, when there may NOT be a lot of
"free" memory, may have to "unpack" UIDE and load the unpacked driver, to
avoid precisely the situation you have seen.

It should also be pointed out that this is an "operational" problem with
DOS, due to its trying to "fit" programs and drivers into the least amount
of memory that will take them. However, DOS was written BEFORE "packing"
programs came into general use, and it does not KNOW that a program may be
"packed". So in cases OTHER than when .SYS files load through CONFIG.SYS
i.e. when memory availability may be a problem, an "unpacked" program or
driver may be necessary.

I say again: My drivers are .SYS files, NOT more-complex .EXE files, and
they need only normal "packing"/"unpacking" like has been done for nearly
20 years by PKZIP/PKUNZIP, RAR/UnRAR, and UPX. My drivers do NOT need any
"relocation" and thus are NOT subject to any of the bugs listed or perhaps
experienced by others who DO load more-complex files. My drivers use a
very simple absolute-image format. That keeps them simple and reliable.

> P.S. I don't understand the reason for flamewar - sources are opened,
> everybody can make non-UPXed version.

Why the "flame war" [if that is what it is]?? You are free to draw your
own conclusions. Mine are that I am forced to "deal with" a man who is
DESPERATE to avoid ADMITTING that he made MISTAKES regarding my drivers
and their use of UPX!! You are free to ask yourself: If UPX did have
such "Horror of HORRORS!" problems, why would it in fact be as successful
as it currently IS?? SORRY, if some "poor guys" using more-complex files
than my drivers have had trouble with it. I follow the K.I.S.S. principle
and have had NO problems with UPX, and I will continue to use it.

avoskov(R)

09.11.2007, 00:26

@ Jack R. Ellis
 

Absolutely Correct.

> You are free to ask yourself: If UPX did have
> such "Horror of HORRORS!" problems, why would it in fact be as successful
> as it currently IS??
It is a very good packer, but packing DOS SYS file is definetly a hack ;-) It is absolutely safe only without DEVICEHIGH. Usually publishers of DOS drivers (e.g. IBM, Panasonic) do not apply packers in it.

P.S. I understand, that UPX in your drivers is rather reliable. But just remember Murphy's law: "Whatever can go wrong, will go wrong". Narrow UMBs can be seen rather often even in the beginning of loading drivers.

Jack

09.11.2007, 01:01

@ avoskov
 

I Agree.

> It is a very good packer, but packing DOS SYS file is definetly a hack ;-)
> It is absolutely safe only without DEVICEHIGH. Usually publishers of DOS
> drivers (e.g. IBM, Panasonic) do not apply packers in it.

I agree. However, XMGR is normally the first driver loaded, and it should
find a totally empty system which will cause it no problems. UIDE usually
loads soon afterward, as you can note in my README file examples. It only
"unpacks" from 6K to 7K, after which it DOES make its own checks for "free"
memory above 7K, when the user requests a /R cache which needs more memory.
This usually occurs only if a user wants over a 200- or 250-MB cache. For
most users who want 200-MB or less, UIDE will "leave behind" only its 1.75K
of logic and use "free" HMA space. This takes NO more upper-memory.

My original posting was in fact directed at users of FreeDOS, who have been
"advised" on their forums to load UIDE with DEVLOAD, after CONFIG.SYS runs.
This is because FreeDOS in its current form does NOT allow using the HMA by
CONFIG.SYS drivers. FreeDOS users must KNOW that if they want UIDE loaded
by DEVLOAD, that instance more-than-likely WILL require an unpacked driver!

I had hoped NOT to be so "technical" in my original posting, for such words
DO tend to "scare off" users. But that posting was made even MORE "scary"
by a completely WRONG comment that "Everyone needs to download UPX", and so
all of these words became NECESSARY.

> P.S. I understand, that UPX in your drivers is rather reliable. But just
> remember Murphy's law: "Whatever can go wrong, will go wrong". Narrow
> UMBs can be seen rather often, even in the beginning of loading drivers.

My understanding is that DOS must be "ordered" to place a .SYS driver into
memory OTHER than the largest-available UMB space, when CONFIG.SYS is run.
One can use the prefix switch /L:n to specify use of UMB area n instead of
the largest area. This normally is done to "pack" drivers into the B000-
B7FFh "monochrome video" space, when it is available. Users that do this
are expected to be "responsible" about it, i.e. test their CONFIG.SYS file
first. Without /L:n which few "know about", there is usually no problem.
FreeDOS users, and others who use DEVLOAD must also be "responsible" about
it. If they understand a bit about DOS and ARE responsible, no problems.

Jack

08.11.2007, 23:32

@ Jack
 

Look In Your Own ...

And if you, "Little Stevie" [you WONDER, you!] want to see someone who needs
a Carload of ExLax, REAL BAD, look in your OWN mirror! Then, go grease-up
your Dreadlocks and wash your ancient flea-bitten Afro Kaftans.

Steve(R)

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09.11.2007, 00:15

@ Jack
 

Look In Your Own ...

> And if you, "Little Stevie" [you WONDER, you!] want to see someone who
> needs a Carload of ExLax, REAL BAD, look in your OWN mirror! Then, go
> grease-up your Dreadlocks and wash your ancient flea-bitten Afro Kaftans.

Thank you, Jacko, I now know everything I need to about your filthy, racist excuse for a mind. Is this the part where I'm supposed to run away crying? Tell you what - hold your breath until I do.

Jack

09.11.2007, 00:27

@ Jack
 

Look More CLOSELY In Your Own ...

Takes one to know one, doesn't it, "Little Stevie", especially after all
your Chicken-Sh*t "Jacko" references to me, you F***ing HYPOCRITE!!!

Ah, but I forgot: Nothing I say is right, and nothing "Little Stevie"
says is WRONG!!!

Zu Befehl, Herr Oberst! :-D

Steve(R)

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09.11.2007, 00:56

@ Jack
 

Look More CLOSELY In Your Own ...

> Takes one to know one, doesn't it, "Little Stevie", especially after all
> your Chicken-Sh*t "Jacko" references to me, you F***ing HYPOCRITE!!!

I was only being affectionate. Would you prefer Yankl? Maybe Uncle Yankl, out of respect for your age and wisdom?

> Ah, but I forgot: Nothing I say is right, and nothing "Little Stevie"
> says is WRONG!!!

Gosh no, Uncle Yankl. You are sometimes right. For example, you probably know your name and how to spell it correctly. And I do make mistakes sometimes, like wasting the effort, in some earlier messages, of addressing you as though you are mentally sound.

> Zu Befehl, Herr Oberst! :-D

Nein, nein. Wohin Sie führen, dahin gehe ich! Jawohl, Meinherr!

Jack

09.11.2007, 01:17

@ Jack
 

Flopsie and Mopsie ...

My GAWD! Flopsie trying to explain to me what Mopsie is saying!
The two of you are the BEST comedy act since Abbott and Costello,
or maybe since the Circus Maximus!

sol(R)

09.11.2007, 01:31

@ Jack
 

Flopsie and Mopsie ...

> My GAWD! Flopsie trying to explain to me what Mopsie is saying!
> The two of you are the BEST comedy act since Abbott and Costello,
> or maybe since the Circus Maximus!

If you had interpretational skills exceeding those of a monkey, I wouldn't need to.

Steve(R)

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09.11.2007, 01:37

@ Jack
 

Flopsie and Mopsie ...

> My GAWD! Flopsie trying to explain to me what Mopsie is saying!
> The two of you are the BEST comedy act since Abbott and Costello,
> or maybe since the Circus Maximus!

Circus Maximus - good idea in its time: Feed annoying people to angry, hungry lions. Bye-bye Jack.

Go ahead, get as nasty as you can. Scare me into submission. I'm shaking.

Jack

09.11.2007, 01:48

@ Steve
 

Go Chew ...

Go chew on your ExLax, Fool! Or perhaps go "Shine up Herr Oberst's BOOTS"!

Steve(R)

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09.11.2007, 01:56

@ Jack
 

Go Chew ...

> Go chew on your ExLax, Fool! Or perhaps go "Shine up Herr Oberst's
> BOOTS"!

The only boots I'll shine up are yours, Uncle Yankl, Meinherr, Mein Kommandant, Mein GOTT!

Jack

09.11.2007, 01:44

@ Jack
 

"Skills" ...

And if YOU were not so DESPERATE to avoid ADMITTING that your "Everyone else will now have to locate/download UPX to decompress" is nothing but a Flat-Ass
MISTAKE, this and other threads would NOT have been necessary!

Users of UIDE who load it normally, through the CONFIG.SYS file and NOT using
DEVLOAD or some other scheme, DO NOT need UPX and in my opinion ARE NOT at
any risk because the driver uses UPX unpacking!

Your "Everyone else ..." comment was FLATLY WRONG, and so far, you have done
EVERYTHING to avoid ADMITTING this! I will let others read this thread and
decide themselves whether or not you are a COWARD, who won't admit MISTAKES!

sol(R)

09.11.2007, 02:06

@ Jack
 

"Skills" ...

> And if YOU were not so DESPERATE to avoid ADMITTING that your "Everyone
> else will now have to locate/download UPX to decompress" is nothing but a
> Flat-Ass
> MISTAKE, this and other threads would NOT have been necessary!

Alright, lets continue your communication tutorial.

It wasn't a mistake, it could've been more explicit had I known you'd have a nervous breakdown if I didn't carefully craft it to keep you from misinterpreting it.

"Most people using the tool probably don't care to save 1k --- and like the bootdisk makers, those who do will have and know how to use UPX, whereas everyone else will now have to locate/download UPX to decompress."

There's three things to note:

1. See that "everyone else" wasn't the start of a sentence. It's referring to everyone who doesn't wish to save 1k for adding the [circumstancial/minimal] risk of a crash/problem.

2. "Everyone else" implies a great many things that should not need to be explicit, for example, it excludes those non-DOS users who will never download or use your drivers.

3. Consider "to decompress" as another constraint --- everyone else who wishes to decompress. I didn't say "everyone else who wishes to use the driver will have to download UPX."

Jack

09.11.2007, 02:14

@ Jack
 

"Skills" ...

Take your own tutorial. I need no lessons of any kind from you, same as
you've already been told by Lucho, Khusraw, and I bet PLENTY of others in
your sorry time.

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09.11.2007, 02:41

@ Jack
 

"Skills" ...

> Take your own tutorial. I need no lessons of any kind from you, same as
> you've already been told by Lucho, Khusraw, and I bet PLENTY of others in
> your sorry time.

OK, if sol is wrong, and a UPX-compressed file can be decompressed without UPX, then you need to explain how. But guess what: It can't be done, therefore you can't explain how, therefore all you have left is changing the subject and whining about being persecuted. Your determination is a wonder to behold - if only it were about something real and not your paranoid fantasies.

Jack

09.11.2007, 03:15

@ Jack
 

Skills ...

My original post was about loading UIDE as a driver. If you want to
uncompress UIDE, just load it. That will do the job. NO need to use
the main UPX program at all.

If you want to uncompress virtually ANY program or driver that has been
compressed by UPX, just load it. That will do the job. NO need to use
the main UPX program at all, exactly as the creators of UPX intended.

My original post WAS NOT about "tool makers" nor about "boot disk" makers
but about USERS loading UIDE for their own PERSONAL USE! The additions
by "Sol" were IRRELEVANT to that subject and made it seem like "Everyone"
who used UIDE needed UPX to do so! THAT was my objection to his post!

Even "Sol" now admits that he could have been a bit more explicit. You
should take note of that.

sol(R)

09.11.2007, 03:53

@ Jack
 

Skills ...

> My original post was about loading UIDE as a driver. If you want to
> uncompress UIDE, just load it. That will do the job. NO need to use
> the main UPX program at all.

This is not what I was referring to when I mentioned decompressing it. Anyone with half a brain was aware of this.

> Even "Sol" now admits that he could have been a bit more explicit. You
> should take note of that.

Again, read more carefully. It's your constant misinterpretation that means I have to be extremely explicit.

To illustrate, if I stated "It's cold outside.", most of the planet would understand. You, however, would require that I define the temperature parameters of "cold", specify that "outside" does not mean outside the current room but rather out of the building, and also specify that I mean today, not anytime in the past or future.

As far as communication goes, Jack, you've got the comprehension level of 3-year old.

Jack R. Ellis

09.11.2007, 04:57

@ Jack
 

So Much For Leaving Quietly ...

After almost 30 minutes of "thin air" from this forum, to think I was almost
able to turn off my system and finally LEAVE this forum quietly ...

Well then, "Sol", I and my poor communication skills will go elsewhere, as
I had intended to do, all day.

This time I cannot fault your "leader" RR, nor even Herr GeneralOberst Grech
who at least managed to keep-his-mouth-shut a HELL of a lot better than you,
Herr Oberst, or your "faithful dog" Herr Obersturmfuehrer (corporal) Steve.

You two now outrank ALL my "Carthaginian Salt Mine" bosses, a pack of IDIOT
co-workers (2 of whom I had to FIRE, and one of whom quit before I could!),
and many others I had the misfortune of having to "deal with" in computers.

I have always been a "reactive" person. If you doubt this, ask the writer
of LBAcache just how much he believes in UIDE was a "reaction" to HIM, as I
once promised that boy!

Sad, that you will not-now be able to use my next "reaction". May take me
time, but I will now focus all my efforts on taking UIDE to the next level,
as YOU WON'T BELIEVE! Not possible, you say? Ask the boy at the Circus.

Now then, "Sol", it is time for me, and my poor communication skills, to go elsewhere, as I meant to do, all day today.

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09.11.2007, 05:30

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So Much For Leaving Quietly ...

> After almost 30 minutes of "thin air" from this forum, to think I was
> almost able to turn off my system and finally LEAVE this forum quietly ...

But then you felt us reaching out to you.

> your "faithful dog" Herr Obersturmfuehrer (corporal) Steve.

I confess - you're right, sol is my leader. I'm proud to serve him in his army, cutting superior beings like you down out of envy.

> You two now outrank ALL my "Carthaginian Salt Mine" bosses, a pack of
> IDIOT co-workers (2 of whom I had to FIRE, and one of whom quit before I
> could!), and many others I had the misfortune of having to "deal with" in
> computers.

It's a shame, a damned shame that you have to deal with your inferiors. Such is the burden of greatness.

> Sad, that you will not-now be able to use my next "reaction".

I'm crying.

Jack

09.11.2007, 09:02

@ Jack
 

Shutting Your MOUTH ...

So, I cannot even get a few hours' sleep without finding that "Little Stevie"
simply CANNOT keep his God-Damned Mouth SHUT!

Well, "Little Stevie" [VERY little, indeed!], if that's the way you want it,
then I'm back, to declare you the WORST example of someone who simply does
not know when to QUIT that I've ever seen!

I need NONE of your medicine nor any of your misguided diagnoses to know you
are a "baiter" and a BULLY of the worst kind! Your idea of "constructive
criticism", as you called it, is only to BEAT UP people, NOTHING more! You
and all like you need to be SHOT, for being worse than STUPID and only EVIL!

You and all like you are a DISGRACE to the United States, and you aptly prove
that you really MUST have "Slept thru High School", like so many other idiot
BRATS that our lawyers, politicians, and "Snake Oil" salesmen just LOVE to
have as their "patsies" or their SUCKERS! You and all like you have RUINED
this country, not-to-mention having RUINED software, an industry I once was
proud of. Not any more, "Little Stevie", not with Bullying SHITHEADS like
YOU in it!!

Why don't you simply learn to keep your God-Damned Mouth SHUT, same as your
dear Herr Oberst "Sol", whose self-righteous comments about me being "mental"
and about me having the comprehension of a 3-year-old are not only a JOKE
but just-plain INSULTS that mark him as the biggest DISGRACE to Canada I've
ALSO ever seen! Maybe you should teach him to LOSE his "Pollyanna Complex"
a mile wide and act like YOUR kind of SHITHEAD, so at least I could approach
BOTH you disreputable, bullying BASTARDS using only ONE frame of reference!!

If you ever DO learn to keep your bullying mouth SHUT, "Little Stevie", then
you will see me gone from this forum. If not, then I promise you and that
self-righteous Canadian DISGRACE that I will keep answering EVERY ONE of your
pigheaded comments on this forum! Not a problem to me, what words or what
context I need to use -- People WILL see you and Herr Oberst as even WORSE
than the ORIGINAL Bullying "Gang of Four", as Lucho has already named you!!

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09.11.2007, 09:32

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Shutting Your MOUTH ...

> So, I cannot even get a few hours' sleep without finding that "Little
> Stevie" simply CANNOT keep his God-Damned Mouth SHUT!

I woke you up?

> Well, "Little Stevie" [VERY little, indeed!], if that's the way you want
> it, then I'm back,

I'm smarter than you think - I knew you wouldn't leave.

> to declare you the WORST example of someone who simply
> does not know when to QUIT that I've ever seen!

Coming from you, that's fabulous! I can't say it often enough - fabulous!

> I need NONE of your medicine nor any of your misguided diagnoses to know
> you are a "baiter" and a BULLY of the worst kind!

I'm only doing my duty as a member of the Anti-Jack Gang.

> Your idea of "constructive criticism", as you called it, is only to BEAT UP
> people, NOTHING more! You and all like you need to be SHOT, for being worse
> than STUPID and only EVIL!

Oh, Jack, you're beginning to hurt my feelings.

> You and all like you are a DISGRACE to the United States

Needling you disgraces the whole country? I'm impressed by your importance.

> and you aptly prove that you really MUST have "Slept thru High School"

Nope. Passed all my courses and graduated on time.

> You and all like you have RUINED this country, not-to-mention having RUINED software, an industry I once was proud of.

By talking back to you, ruined the whole country and software too? Fabulous!

> If you ever DO learn to keep your bullying mouth SHUT, "Little Stevie",
> then you will see me gone from this forum. If not, then I promise you and
> that self-righteous Canadian DISGRACE that I will keep answering EVERY ONE
> of your pigheaded comments on this forum! Not a problem to me, what words
> or what context I need to use -- People WILL see you and Herr Oberst as even
> WORSE than the ORIGINAL Bullying "Gang of Four", as Lucho has already named
> you!!

Jack, Jack, so full of contradictions. First you say you will leave because we talk back to you, now you say you will stay because we talk back to you. Can't you stick to one position so we know where we stand? Of course not - you must stay and scatter your abuse, because that's what you do. But when you show no mercy for even a slight disagreement, you can expect no better for yourself. What goes around comes around. Leave or stay, I don't care, but if you stay I will not be silent and feed your delusion that your stream of garbage can drown me.

Jack

09.11.2007, 09:50

@ Steve
 

Shutting Your MOUTH ...

> I woke you up?

Hardly, FOOL!

> I'm smarter than you think - I knew you wouldn't leave.

I might have, but for your MOUTH!

> Coming from you, that's fabulous! I can't say it often enough - fabulous!

Glad you appreciate all this, FOOL! Only an idiot would!

> I'm only doing my duty as a member of the Anti-Jack Gang.

So, Lucho was in fact correct -- You guys DO operate only like a "gang"!

> Oh, Jack, you're beginning to hurt my feelings.

I'm crying for you, FOOL!

> Needling you disgraces the whole country? I'm impressed by your
> importance.

Thanks, FOOL! Glad you appreciate your "betters", as you should!

> Nope. Passed all my courses and graduated on time.

From where, Podunk perhaps?? And with what average, D- perhaps??

> By talking back to you, ruined the whole country and software too?
> Fabulous!

Nope, you only helped, FOOL, as should be obvious to all reading this.

> Jack, Jack, so full of contradictions.

No contradictions, FOOL! Just defending myself against your "fake" sense
of feeling hurt, which is as much a JOKE as you are.

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09.11.2007, 11:07

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Shutting Your MOUTH ...

> > I woke you up?
>
> Hardly, FOOL!

So you LIED when you said you were getting some sleep.

> > I'm smarter than you think - I knew you wouldn't leave.
>
> I might have, but for your MOUTH!

You can hear me, from way off in California? Even though I'm not even talking? Fabulous!

> Glad you appreciate all this, FOOL! Only an idiot would!

Only an idiot would appreciate you? Fabulous!

> > I'm only doing my duty as a member of the Anti-Jack Gang.
>
> So, Lucho was in fact correct -- You guys DO operate only like a "gang"!

It's called projection, Jacko - you see yourself everywhere.

> > Nope. Passed all my courses and graduated on time.
>
> From where, Podunk perhaps??

The best high school in the country.

> And with what average, D- perhaps??

Don't bet money on that.

Jack

09.11.2007, 13:41

@ Steve
 

Shutting Your MOUTH ...

> So you LIED when you said you were getting some sleep.

Oh, I was sleeping, FOOL! But not for long, after having to deal with
your latest day's BULLSHIT.

> You can hear me, from way off in California? Even though I'm not even
> talking? Fabulous!

Hard not to hear you, FOOL, surely not one who REAKS as you do.

> Only an idiot would appreciate you? Fabulous!

Only IDIOTS like you and your "officers" would begin such trash, as you
always insist on doing, FOOL!

> I'm only doing my duty as a member of the Anti-Jack Gang.
> It's called projection, Jacko - you see yourself everywhere.

Well, you call it whatever you want, FOOL! Others can read your original
words, AND your intent, and I'll bet they call you a "gang" TOO, FOOL!

> The best high school in the country.

I thought so -- Another "sleeper" from Podunk if you graduated at all, FOOL!

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09.11.2007, 19:49

@ Jack
 

Shutting Your MOUTH ...

> > So you LIED when you said you were getting some sleep.
>
> Oh, I was sleeping, FOOL! But not for long, after having to deal with
> your latest day's BULLSHIT.

You don't recognize you own standard response when someone else makes a mistake, do you?

> > You can hear me, from way off in California? Even though I'm not even
> > talking? Fabulous!
>
> Hard not to hear you, FOOL, surely not one who REAKS as you do.

Did you mean REEKS or WREAKS? And you offer to give me English lessons. Fabulous!

> > Only an idiot would appreciate you? Fabulous!
>
> Only IDIOTS like you and your "officers" would begin such trash, as you
> always insist on doing, FOOL!

So I was right.

> > The best high school in the country.
>
> I thought so -- Another "sleeper" from Podunk if you graduated at all,

Let's try to be just a little bit serious, here, Jacko. There is no way you can know what schools I went to, what I studied, or anything else about my education. It's all in your imagination, based on no facts whatsoever. If you did have the pertinent facts, you would shut your own stinking trap and pretend that you had said nothing.

> FOOL!

PSYCHO!

lucho

09.11.2007, 20:03

@ Steve
 

Shutting Your MOUTH ...

Are you the author of the "Short Stop's Software Pages"? It's hard to believe. Please stop with your shameful personal insults to Jack immediately. You're not on par with neither his age, nor his professional level, nor his culture. Basta!

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09.11.2007, 20:22

@ lucho
 

Shutting Your MOUTH ...

> Are you the author of the "Short Stop's Software Pages"?

Author of the supplements and updates to Richard Green's work. Currently I am perhaps best described as maintainer or publisher.

> It's hard to believe.

Your problem, not mine.

> Please stop with your shameful personal insults to Jack
> immediately.

Will Jack stop his torrent of insults to many people(s)? Will you?

> You're not on par with neither his age,

You can't know that.

> nor his professional level,

Somewhat true - I haven't spent 32 years writing a few drivers.

> nor his culture.

That's funny! You are almost as great a comedian as Jack.

> Basta!

Non ancora, caro amico!

lucho

09.11.2007, 20:36

@ Steve
 

Shutting Your MOUTH ...

> Will Jack stop his torrent of insults to many people(s)? Will you?

Our defence will stop when your attacks stop. It's so simple.

> > You're not on par with neither his age,
>
> You can't know that.

Conveniently hidden behind your anonymity, you think I can't? But I can, since it's obvious. Even I, with my limited knowledge of English, can see that.

> > nor his professional level,
>
> Somewhat true - I haven't spent 32 years writing a few drivers.

A few drivers? You're becoming more and more laughable! Please stop.

> Non ancora, caro amico!

Probabilmente mai, ipocrita? :-(

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09.11.2007, 20:48

@ lucho
 

Shutting Your MOUTH ...

> > Will Jack stop his torrent of insults to many people(s)? Will you?
>
> Our defence will stop when your attacks stop. It's so simple.

Time for you to go back to the earliest messages, and see who struck the first blows, and inspired all of us.

> > > You're not on par with neither his age,
> >
> > You can't know that.
>
> Conveniently hidden behind your anonymity, you think I can't? But I can,
> since it's obvious. Even I, with my limited knowledge of English, can see
> that.

OK then - what do you think you know?

> > > nor his professional level,
> >
> > Somewhat true - I haven't spent 32 years writing a few drivers.
>
> A few drivers? You're becoming more and more laughable! Please stop.
>
> > Non ancora, caro amico!
>
> Probabilmente mai, ipocrita? :-(

Molto divertente! Hai imparato bene lo stile del tuo Duce, il illustro Giaco.

Jack

09.11.2007, 21:22

@ Steve
 

Shutting Your MOUTH ...

> You don't recognize you own standard response when someone else makes a
> mistake, do you?

For legitimate mistakes, my responses are quite different that the ones I
use for all the "baitings", bullying, and BULLSHIT from you.

> Did you mean REEKS or WREAKS? And you offer to give me English lessons.
> Fabulous!

Have you never heard of a "typo", FOOL?? Equally "Fabulous"!!:-D :-D


>> Only IDIOTS like you and your "officers" would begin such trash, as you
>> always insist on doing, FOOL!
>
> So I was right.

Of course, FOOL! You and your "officers" really ARE just-plain IDIOTS!

> There is no way you can know what schools I went to, what I studied, or
> anything else about my education.

And DAMNED-Glad for it, FOOL, since I get to deal with the PRODUCT of such
obviously wretched schools on this forum!! :-D :-D :-D

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Shutting Your MOUTH ...

> > There is no way you can know what schools I went to, what I studied, or
> > anything else about my education.
>
> And DAMNED-Glad for it,

So you admit you fabricated that garbage about my going to school in Podunk, sleeping, blah, blah.

> I get to deal with the PRODUCT of such obviously wretched schools on this forum!!

But now you're doing it again, characterizing the unknown on the basis of nothing.

Do tell us already - at which glorious institutions (psychiatric or other) did you learn to be Mr. Wonderful, full of insight without evidence?

lucho

08.11.2007, 17:49

@ sol
 

Reyoice - you reached your goal!

Now I know why you came here. The goal of you and the other members of your Gang of Four was only one: to upset Jack to a degree that he denies further access to his drivers. Congratulations, now your dream is a reality! Now, if you're not a coward, you can safely reveal the best kept top secret on this forum - your real name, to let us admire your evil genius, who, together with the evil genius of Andreas Grech, managed to fulfil your long wished dream: to kill Jack's drivers! Now, if you could deny the Chinese users access to them, your victory would be full. But alas, your hands are too short for that. So, a bit of bitter taste will remain in your mouth.

I know why you do this. You and the other 3 from your gang just envy his talent!

(I see your foot set also on the Udo's forum. But Udo is not Robert, so - be careful! He banned Andreas Grech from there, so he may ban you too - be warned!)

Be Damned, you and the other three from your gang! :-(

P.S. I detest talking to masked persons like you and Steve but I have no choice!

P.P.S. Sorry for my not very good English.

sol(R)

08.11.2007, 18:30

@ lucho
 

Reyoice - you reached your goal!

> Now I know why you came here. The goal of you and the other members of your
> Gang of Four was only one: to upset Jack to a degree that he denies further
> access to his drivers. Congratulations, now your dream is a reality! Now,

Actually I'd just not mind a nice hangout where DOS-related things can be discussed peacefully :)

> if you're not a coward, you can safely reveal the best kept top secret on
> this forum - your real name, to let us admire your evil genius, who,
> together with the evil genius of Andreas Grech, managed to fulfil your
> long wished dream: to kill Jack's drivers! Now, if you could deny the
> Chinese users access to them, your victory would be full. But alas, your
> hands are too short for that. So, a bit of bitter taste will remain in
> your mouth.

Tell my name to a bunch of people who clearly lack a grip on reality? No thanks.

> I know why you do this. You and the other 3 from your gang just envy his
> talent!
>
> (I see your foot set also on the Udo's forum. But Udo is not Robert, so -
> be careful! He banned Andreas Grech from there, so he may ban you too - be
> warned!)

I'll post where I please.

lucho

09.11.2007, 17:27

@ sol
 

The best kept top secret on this forum

First and foremost, whoever you really are, please stop insulting Jack!

> Actually I'd just not mind a nice hangout where DOS-related things can be discussed peacefully :)

Neither would I, but obviously this forum isn't such a place :-(

> > if you're not a coward, you can safely reveal the best kept top secret on this forum - your real name
>
> Tell my name to a bunch of people who clearly lack a grip on reality? No thanks.

Even just your first name? Why? Are you afraid or ashamed of something?
Everything else aside, it's not fair that you know my name but I don't know yours.

By the way, I'm glad that you're not the guy whom Jack suggested you are - that guy had really contributed to the DOS world, unlike someone else who prefers to stay an anonymous co.... (do you know how Slashdot calls anonymous users?)

sol(R)

09.11.2007, 17:35

@ lucho
 

The best kept top secret on this forum

> > Tell my name to a bunch of people who clearly lack a grip on reality?
> No thanks.
>
> Even just your first name? Why? Are you afraid or ashamed of something?
> Everything else aside, it's not fair that you know my name but I don't
> know yours.

I already answered this question. Since you seem to need things to be very explicitly spelled out to you as well...

I could not be more honest or serious when I say that I feel Jack is racist, has some serious mental problems/instability and is in need of therapy and medication. Judging by some of your other posts, such as the excerpt below, I'd say you probably do too, though I've not seen you act racist...yet.

"Congratulations, now your dream is a reality! Now, if you're not a coward, you can safely reveal the best kept top secret on this forum - your real name, to let us admire your evil genius, who, together with the evil genius of Andreas Grech, managed to fulfil your long wished dream: to kill Jack's drivers! Now, if you could deny the Chinese users access to them..."

lucho

09.11.2007, 17:46
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@ sol
 

The best kept top secret on this forum

> > Even just your first name? Why? Are you afraid or ashamed of something?
> > Everything else aside, it's not fair that you know my name but I don't
> > know yours.
>
> I already answered this question.

You answered none of the above questions of mine, and none of my previous ones.

> I could not be more honest or serious when I say that I feel Jack is
> racist, has some serious mental problems/instability and is in need of
> therapy and medication.

Are you a psychiatrist? If not, please keep your amateur opinion for yourself.

> Judging by some of your other posts, such as the
> excerpt below, I'd say you probably do too, though I've not seen you act racist...yet.

Yet?! You don't know me at all but dare to draw conclusions about me. Laughable!

I regard your keeping even your first name top secret as disrespectful to all.

Jack

09.11.2007, 18:24

@ lucho
 

The best kept top secret on this forum

Not in his "lexicon" to stop insulting me, Lucho. He insists on fair-play,
but when "push comes to shove", his insults mark him as the biggest DISGRACE
to Canada I've yet seen. Besides, Herr Oberst "takes his orders" from Herr
GeneralOberst, who's already a "Shit Disturber" by his own admission. That
is how the "pecking order" still works. Correct??

No need for his name, as we can alway address those guys by how they "rank",
or by how they "REEK" (i.e. stink)! And if that is not adequate, there are
also "Flopsie, Mopsie, and Cottontail" or perhaps The Three Stooges. Might
be interesting to find "Who" of them is Moe, "What" of them is Larry and "He
don't give a Damn" of them is Curly.

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08.11.2007, 21:48

@ lucho
 

Reyoice - you reached your goal!

> Now I know why you came here. The goal of you and the other members of your
> Gang of Four was only one: to upset Jack to a degree that he denies further
> access to his drivers.

I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I had no such goal in mind. I had no contact with Jack, or any knowledge of him as a person, before I read his messages here. Even now, whether he allows or forbids access to his drivers is of no interest to me whatsoever.

> Congratulations, now your dream is a reality!

But thanks anyway.

> Now,
> if you're not a coward, you can safely reveal the best kept top secret on
> this forum - your real name, to let us admire your evil genius, who,
> together with the evil genius of Andreas Grech, managed to fulfil your
> long wished dream: to kill Jack's drivers! Now, if you could deny the
> Chinese users access to them, your victory would be full. But alas, your
> hands are too short for that. So, a bit of bitter taste will remain in
> your mouth.

You don't know how crazy that is, do you?

> I know why you do this. You and the other 3 from your gang just envy his
> talent!

I cannot speak for sol or for Japheth in this matter, but for myself I confess: In this case you are right - I have always wanted to be psychotic.

> you [apparently sol] and the other three from your gang!

Let me try to make it simple enough for you to understand: There is no gang. I have not instructed anyone else here on what they should say or do. No others have instructed me on what I should say or do. There has been no international conference, real or virtual.

> P.S. I detest talking to masked persons like you and Steve but I have no
> choice!

I'm no more masked than anyone else whom you communicate with electronically. It's the 21st century, wake up already. We're many kilometers apart and that's how it works.

> P.P.S. Sorry for my not very good English.

Stop taking lessons from Jack. His illness interferes with his grammar.

And in future you should, like Jack, try to take your medicine on schedule, it will do all of us a lot of good.

Jack R. Ellis

09.11.2007, 23:22

@ Jack R. Ellis
 

"Quietude".

"Quietude", at last.

So, I will leave -- With my "guns" loaded, in anticipation of the next
Peasant Hunt that most certainly awaits me on this forum.

And if any of the GOOD people seeing this believe that I in fact ENJOY
breaking every rule of being a Gentleman my Father taught me, to "deal
with" the three -- and ONLY three -- Bad Guys here, please think again!

WHOOPS!! I meant Pheasant Hunt, before Steve hastens to correct me!!
:-D :-D

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09.11.2007, 23:39

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"Quietude".

> "Quietude", at last.
>
> So, I will leave -- With my "guns" loaded, in anticipation of the next
> Peasant Hunt that most certainly awaits me on this forum.
>
> And if any of the GOOD people seeing this believe that I in fact ENJOY
> breaking every rule of being a Gentleman my Father taught me, to "deal
> with" the three -- and ONLY three -- Bad Guys here, please think again!

Three? Down from four? Who deserted his comrades?

> WHOOPS!! I meant Pheasant Hunt, before Steve hastens to correct me!!
> :-D :-D

Funny. I can't stop laughing. Oh help me, please, I can't stop, I can't breathe, help m

Jack

10.11.2007, 00:13

@ Steve
 

"Come Into My Parlor ... "

"Won't you come into my parlor!", said the Spider to the Fly, or might I
say FOOL or SUCKER! Your choice, "Little Stevie"!

> Three? Down from four? Who deserted his comrades?

One appears to be "on leave", or this thread would have been "locked".

> Oh help me, please

Dear Lord, you heard him! :-D :-D

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10.11.2007, 00:36

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"Come Into My Parlor ... "

> "Won't you come into my parlor!", said the Spider to the Fly, or might I
> say FOOL or SUCKER! Your choice, "Little Stevie"!

Well, Jacko, you're back, so who's the FOOL or SUCKER?

> > Three? Down from four? Who deserted his comrades?
>
> One appears to be "on leave", or this thread would have been "locked".

Maybe he's taking time off to shop at Smith&Wesson.

> > Oh help me, please
>
> Dear Lord, you heard him!

I've caught my breath now. Thanks for the appeal to the Lord, it must have worked.

Jack

10.11.2007, 01:12

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"Bringing In The Sheep ..."

> You're back

Sure am, "Little Stevie", on what amounts to a direct invitation by you!

Always used to enjoy watching my Mother play Bridge with my Uncle as her
partner. Whenever my Uncle got to play a winning hand, he'd be singing
"Bringing in the sheep, bringing in the sheep ... ".

Actually, in your case, "Little Stevie", I much prefer the thought of
casting out a fishing line, and then "Reeling 'em in ... "! :-D

> Who deserted his comrades?
> Maybe he's taking time off to shop at Smith&Wesson.

Hope he finds something he likes. As for me, I prefer the Glock 23,
that I was lucky enough to get when 13-round magazines could still be
had for it. Also, I enjoy a nice pump-action 10-gauge shotgun, like
one that fires magnum loads of No. 2 lead birdshot. Ask any Police
Officer what kind of job THEY do.

> Thanks for the appeal to the Lord, it must have worked.

Glad to be of service, "Little Stevie"! If you desire other help, I
might be able to locate you an Exorcist, as well! :-D :-D

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10.11.2007, 01:26

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"Bringing In The Sheep ..."

> As for me, I prefer the Glock 23, that I was lucky enough to get when 13-
> round magazines could still be had for it. Also, I enjoy a nice pump-
> action 10-gauge shotgun, like one that fires magnum loads of No. 2 lead
> birdshot. Ask any Police Officer what kind of job THEY do.

You really shouldn't give advice to your enemies on the effectiveness of firearms. Unless you want help in hitting the road (to the next world), Jack.

> > Thanks for the appeal to the Lord, it must have worked.
>
> Glad to be of service, "Little Stevie"! If you desire other help, I
> might be able to locate you an Exorcist, as well!

Thanks again. When you're ready to go back on your meds, all you have to do is say so - I'll refer you to a doctor I know in your area. It's the least i can do for my Savior.

Jack

10.11.2007, 01:43

@ Steve
 

Children.

> You really shouldn't give advice to your enemies

But its so EASY, "Little Stevie"! Dealing with Children, especially the
ones OVER age 18 who did as much "Sleeping" and know as little as is true
for most of them, is SO EASY! Rather like "Reeling 'em in ... "!!

> Thanks again.

You are most welcome, Boy!!

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10.11.2007, 02:58

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Children.

> > You really shouldn't give advice to your enemies
>
> But its so EASY, "Little Stevie"! Dealing with Children, especially the
> ones OVER age 18 who did as much "Sleeping" and know as little as is true
> for most of them, is SO EASY! Rather like "Reeling 'em in ... "!!

Oh wise one, tell me, how old am I? How do you know about my sleeping? Are you sure I'm the one being reeled in? Who is that can't stop whining and crying for sympathy, and at the same time boasting of his superiority (while remaining silent about his education [or lack thereof])?

> > Thanks again.
>
> You are most welcome, Boy!!

I'm always gratefull to Big Massa.

Jack

10.11.2007, 03:20

@ Steve
 

Your Age??

> Tell me, how old am I?

Don't know, but my guess would be 18 months or less, my Boy!

> I'm always gratefull to Big Massa.

Do be careful, my Boy! Now that at least one of your "officers" seems
to have slithered-out from under his rock for another "Sunning", he might
accuse you of being a RACIST for such words!! VERY unusual, for someone
who is not an African-American to use words like YOU just did!!

As for your "officer", who is now clearly grasping at any straws his coils
can hold, I guess he is trying to achieve a level of DISGRACE for Canada
that rates LESS than negative-infinity!! Impossible, given current laws
of mathematics, but who knows -- Maybe he is the next Fermat or Newton!!

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10.11.2007, 03:57

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Your Age??

> > Tell me, how old am I?
>
> Don't know, but my guess would be 18 months or less, my Boy!

Then I'm a bloody genius, able to read and write and use real words in sentences.

> > I'm always grateful to Big Massa.
>
> Do be careful, my Boy! Now that at least one of your "officers" seems
> to have slithered-out from under his rock for another "Sunning", he might
> accuse you of being a RACIST for such words!!

A sarcastic reponse to a racist insult is itself racist? That's a good one.

> VERY unusual, for someone who is not an African-American to use words like YOU just did!!

Maybe unusual at your white gun-freak meetings, but lots of people recognize racism even when they are not directly the victims of it. But why do you think I'm not African-American? Can you see me? Do you have a sample of my DNA? Or did you mean that my grammar is too good? Whichever, you have made clear what you are.

> As for your "officer", who is now clearly grasping at any straws his coils
> can hold, I guess he is trying to achieve a level of DISGRACE for Canada

Here we go again, as if he represents all of Canada, disgracing it by casting aspersions on your character - as if you were some kind of American national treasure that cannot be violated with impunity. Fabulous!

> that rates LESS than negative-infinity!!

Negative-infinity - What a concept! (as the great philospher R. Williams might say).

> Impossible, given current laws of mathematics

How do you know? Did someone read it to you from Math for Dummies?

> but who knows -- Maybe he is the next Fermat or Newton!!

Who knows - he does seem to have gone to school and learned a thing or two to build on.

Jack R. Ellis

10.11.2007, 03:26

@ Jack R. Ellis
 

Another USERPER!!

Given the 03:17 timestamp on a prior post to this thread, while I was in
fact writing the response to "Little Stevie" and "Sol" which you all can
see is stamped 03:20, it would seem we have another USERPER of my name,
present today!!

"Come out, come out, whomever you are!!"

Jack

10.11.2007, 03:39

@ Jack R. Ellis
 

He FELL For It!!

Note in the previous posts that "Little Stevie" FELL for the false post of
whoever today's USERPER of my name is!!

As noted above, I just KNEW it would not be fruitful to have an intelligent
conversation with an 18-month-old (or maybe LESS)!! :-D :-D :-D

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10.11.2007, 04:31

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He FELL For It!!

> Note in the previous posts that "Little Stevie" FELL for the false post of
> whoever today's USERPER of my name is!!

And how was I supposed to know it was a usurper? How do I know it wasn't you, now covering up your little slip?

> As noted above, I just KNEW it would not be fruitful to have an
> intelligent conversation with an 18-month-old (or maybe LESS)!!

You sure do put a lot of time and energy into proclaiming yourself to be insane. Congratulations on your work ethic.

Jack R. Ellis

10.11.2007, 04:34

@ Steve
 

He FELL For It!!

Shut up, NIGGER!

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10.11.2007, 04:37

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He FELL For It!!

> Shut up, NIGGER!

Lucho, what do you think of your comrade now? Are you still in his club?

lucho

10.11.2007, 08:11

@ Steve
 

Dirty tricks - some coward played as Jack!

> > Shut up, NIGGER!
>
> Lucho, what do you think of your comrade now? Are you still in his club?

What could I think - it's obvious that the above was not written by Jack. The usurper of his name did it to discredit Jack. Isn't that obvious to you? Or... perhaps the usurper wasn't Grech this time, but you?!

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Dirty tricks - some coward played as Jack!

> > > Shut up, NIGGER!
> >
> > Lucho, what do you think of your comrade now? Are you still in his
> club?
>
> What could I think - it's obvious that the above was not written by Jack.
> The usurper of his name did it to discredit Jack.

If Jack had sense enough to register, his name could not have been usurped. Even if he didn't send the three messages he claims were not his, the rest of them are still garbage. What do you make of his fascination wuth reeling children in? Are you a father? Would you want him in your neighborhood?

> Isn't that obvious to you?

In context, I don't see why it should have been obvious. Have you read his other messages? They all fit together nicely. The usurper (if there is one) followed a pattern set by Jack himself, with no objection from you.

> Or... perhaps the usurper wasn't Grech this time, but you?!

Imagine what you will.

lucho

10.11.2007, 08:40

@ Steve
 

Dirty tricks - some coward played as Jack!

> The usurper (if there is one) followed a pattern set by Jack himself, with no objection from you.

To object an usurper, without knowing who he really is, would be unreasonable.

Jack

10.11.2007, 08:55

@ Steve
 

"Reeling You In"!

> If Jack had sense enough to register

Greeting, "Little Stevie"! Back from seeing an Oral Surgeon, are you??
No need for me to register on this forum, as I don't like it, and in any
case, my USERPER this morning was so DUMB that he failed even WITHOUT me
being registered! That is called LOGIC, "Little Stevie", a new subject
I can teach you in perhaps 16 years!

> Reeling children in?

Only stupid FISH get reeled-in, "Little Stevie"! I'll have to take you
fishing, after you get out of diapers. Then, perhaps you will note the
rather "DUHHHHH!" look on the face of most Trout that we reel-in! Same
as I bet the USERPER saw on YOUR face, when he reeled-in "The WRONG poor
Son-of-a-Bitch!", TWICE this morning!

> They all fit together nicely.

Sure do, "Little Stevie"! Teachers have to be good, and I am one of the
BEST, surely at teaching 18-month-olds like YOU at least one good lesson:

DON'T F*** With Little Old Men!!

sol(R)

10.11.2007, 09:04

@ Jack
 

"Reeling You In"!

> DON'T F*** With Little Old Men!!

Those poor children wouldn't, if you gave them the choice.

Jack

10.11.2007, 09:19

@ Steve
 

The DISGRACE Returns!

Well, well! Greetings, Herr Oberst! Back with another "grasping at
straws", I see! Aren't your coils losing too many scales, trying all
your DESPERATE grasping?? Haven't you DISGRACED your rather SORRY
self enough??

If not, FOOL, stick around -- I can always find ways to dig your grave
a bit deeper!

We have an old saying: "If it walks like a Duck, Quacks like a duck,
and looks like a Duck, then it probably IS a Duck!" GUESS what group
that puts YOU in, HERR OBERST -- and it AIN'T DUCKS!!!

The WORST DISGRACE to Canada I have EVER seen, Herr Oberst, and all of
your rather DESPERATE "cheap shots" surely prove it to everyone here!!

Jack

10.11.2007, 04:54

@ Jack
 

How NOT to Fall For It!

> And how was I supposed to know it was a usurper?

When you get more band-aids for your bleeding lips, "Little Stevie",
and after you advance in age a bit, maybe I can explain the concept
of timestamps to you!!

> Congratulations on your work ethic.

Why, Thank you, "Little Stevie"! See you in my classroom! :-D :-D

Jack R. Ellis

10.11.2007, 04:48

@ Jack R. Ellis
 

He FELL For It AGAIN!!

The USERPER "Speaks" again, with a 04:34 timestamp on his posting while
I was rather obviously telling "Little Stevie", above, that I am his
kind of teacher in a posting timestamped 04:37!!

And once-again, "Little Stevie" FELL for it AGAIN!!

Gosh, "Little Stevie", you should rush to my classroom, QUICK, before
your "holy" lips cause you to BLEED to death, my Boy!

RR, when you return from wherever-you-are, you have some SERIOUS address
investigation to do, regarding the postings made on this website today!!

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He FELL For It AGAIN!!

> The USERPER "Speaks" again, with a 04:34 timestamp on his posting while
> I was rather obviously telling "Little Stevie", above, that I am his
> kind of teacher in a posting timestamped 04:37!!
>
> And once-again, "Little Stevie" FELL for it AGAIN!!

Oh, of course. It's not possible to post two messages in three minutes. I should have known.

> Gosh, "Little Stevie", you should rush to my classroom, QUICK, before
> your "holy" lips cause you to BLEED to death, my Boy!

You stinking piece of garbage, boasting that you haven't got enough brains to register your name so it can't be spoofed.

> RR, when you return from wherever-you-are, you have some SERIOUS address
> investigation to do, regarding the postings made on this website today!!

Stick your shotgun's muzzle in your mouth and put yourself out of your misery.

Jack

10.11.2007, 05:31

@ Jack R. Ellis
 

"Poor Baby"!!

> It's not possible to post two messages in three minutes. I should have
> known.

Of COURSE not, "Little Stevie"! It takes TIME to "educate" 18-month-olds
like you, and I have never been the world's greatest typist, as you have
noted before. In your case, I am also quite-often slowed by HILARITY!

> You stinking piece of garbage, boasting that you haven't got enough brains
> to register your name so it can't be spoofed.
> Stick your shotgun's muzzle in your mouth and put yourself out of your
> misery.

Awww, "Poor baby"! It finally CRACKED, as I expected it WOULD!

And by the way, FOOL, though I do in fact own a Glock, I live in an area
with only indoor target ranges, cannot go to an outdoor range because I
was born with Asthma, and thus I do NOT own a shotgun! "Preferences"
are not the same as OWNERSHIP, as perhaps you will ALSO learn when you
get a bit older, SUCKER!!

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RR, as you can see from the above, there may be a STRONG likelihood that
the man usurping my name IS in fact STEVE!! I urge you to do whatever
you can to INVESTIGATE the postings on this forum today and to DISCIPLINE
those who show NO respect for usurping the name and character of others!!

Jack

10.11.2007, 06:00

@ Jack R. Ellis
 

The "Sunny" Reptile Speaks!!

> Why would he listen to some old cretin who no one respects

For reasons of security and INTEGRITY, the last of which must be a new
concept for you, Herr Oberst, given the Anonymous-Coward "footer", the
ONLY one of its kind I've seen on this forum, that now INVALIDATES and DISGRACES every one of your postings here!

Now go back to "sunning" yourself, or perhaps slither back under your
favorite rock, before RR denies "footer" privileges to ALL registered
users here due to one USURPER of THAT privilege, and maybe a few guys
who DO own shotguns come LOOKING for you!!

Jack

10.11.2007, 06:19

@ Jack R. Ellis
 

"Confusion".

> I'm confused.

You bet your Serpentine organs you're confused, Herr Oberst, and I expect
HAVE been for quite a while!

However, RR should be only a few hours away from returning to this forum,
seeing the "PM" I sent him about all of this morning's GARBAGE, and maybe
even seeing your Anonymous-Coward "footer", as well.

I will let him deal with your "confusion, however he wishes. His right,
and his privilege, since I am not registered here and have NO wish to be.

Klaar, Herr Oberst??

Jack

10.11.2007, 07:15

@ Jack R. Ellis
 

WRONG, FOOL!!

WRONG, FOOL!!

In fact, my "PM" to RR listed 3 postings from this morning's thread and
asked him to make the strongest possible investigation of them.

Just keep showing everyone your REAL "colors" and how FALSE your sense
of pride and propriety are, Herr Oberst, you TOTAL DISGRACE to Canada!

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