DOS ain't dead

(brewed separate thread for this to prevent pollution of RayeR's discussion)

> > http://www.ulozto.cz/7940392/mupdf-07-djgpp-rar
> > (click "stahnout" and then enter captcha)
> > Anyone got the file ? Please upload it to omp
> I checked the link and is still alive, what's the problem?

There is no problem ... oops, the page is just inherently broken, and I can't download the file, does this count as problem ?

> To write four chars captcha?

There is no captcha, see shot:



The page is absurdly bloated and full of mess, apparently "optimized" for Windaube & IE 10, see included logo

Any problem prevents from uploading to omp ?

BTW, I can download from omp, from jafile, from Opera (but doesn't run in DOS, plus 11.xx is additionally broken) and from other pages too.

BTWW, I can't download from Adobe either:



(with Firefox it additionally says something like "Adobe Reader X (10.0.1) (46.29 MB) Your system: Windows XP SP2 - SP3)" but doesn't work either)

The offending file is here (vanished from Adobe ???): PDF BLOAT (15 MiB, 1.7)

PDFOCT23.PDF 16'072'714
75AFEF3D69633D8504E3529AF6FFC5E1

If anyone has original Adobe Reader XXX-BLOAT, please test

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This is a LOGITECH mouse driver, but some software expect here
the following string:*** This is Copyright 1983 Microsoft ***

Well I managed to download the file and tested pdfdraw and pdfinfo. Both worked for DOS, however, I could not get more than one page done with pdfdraw.

And I still look for a viewer for pgm, ppm and pam files. Even my version of Irfanview/Win did not support these formats.

The file gets so big mainly because of the source code directory. Maybe one can make a separate file for the binary versions only.

Georg

> Well I managed to download the file and tested pdfdraw and pdfinfo

IE 10 ???

> And I still look for a viewer for pgm, ppm and pam files

Did you test those all GraphPaintCAD and all failed ?

Try also NVIEW to view directly and NCONVERT to convert before viewing XX.

> The file gets so big mainly because of the source code directory.
> Maybe one can make a separate file for the binary versions only.

NO. Do you mean the RAR you downloaded ? Is it 24 MiB ?

Then the reasons most likely are:

- Usage of UPX - get ft017027.zi7 (7 MiB) and try to find out how I could put 8 versions of the thing (5 MiB to 8 MiB per piece) with source code into just 7 MiB total
- Usage of a poor archiver / bad archive format

Most likely the file could be optimized "losslessly" below 10 MiB

Removing the source is a bad idea because:

- it adds very little bloat if compressed well
- it is needed (GPL)

My above complaints were mostly about the page (see shot size ), but the RAR file is bloated too, apart from Adobe-XXX (incredible 50 MiB), and the "broken" spec (15 MiB)

PS: please (Georg) let me know about "AX=8" issue or INT13 bugfixes ... I did not have time for further test so far

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This is a LOGITECH mouse driver, but some software expect here
the following string:*** This is Copyright 1983 Microsoft ***

I compressed the source directory with 7zip which uses "xz" compression. This is a very good compression technology.

The original source directory was 85 MB and it got compressed to 14 MB. The rest of the files resulted in 8.7 MB compressed.

I will look at the AX=8 command next week.

Georg

> Well I managed to download the file and tested pdfdraw and pdfinfo. Both
> worked for DOS, however, I could not get more than one page done with
> pdfdraw.

I tested it - it is possible (list of pages or entire document), use %d in output filename for automatic filename numbering. Note: in batch file you have to double % character.

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DOS gives me freedom to unlimited HW access.

I do not understand the instructions. Here is the line in my batch file:

pdfdraw.exe -o tmp.png sg3525.pdf 1-12

This results in a PNG image of page 12 only.

I could not add %%d without some error message. How would you specify the above line including %%d ?

Georg

I think you are little bit impatient. You can wait when I will setup things right together and place it on my site or you can use some linux/windows machine with slightly up-to-date web browser to download it. I think nobody else have need to fill the forum with pseudoproblems and others are quite happy users of beta now. I have a fulltime job and I work on this programming in my (little) free time. I don't even need to release any beta or I didn't need release mupdf dos port at all. You can also download the official sources and modify them what you want. Got it?

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DOS gives me freedom to unlimited HW access.

> I do not understand the instructions. Here is the line in my batch file:
>
> pdfdraw.exe -o tmp.png sg3525.pdf 1-12
>
> This results in a PNG image of page 12 only.
>
> I could not add %%d without some error message. How would you specify the
> above line including %%d ?
>
> Georg

Try
pdfdraw.exe -o tmp%d.png sg3525.pdf 1-12
on command line. Page numbers may be needed as comma separated list I don't know now. In batch file you use
pdfdraw.exe -o tmp%%d.png sg3525.pdf %1

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DOS gives me freedom to unlimited HW access.

Thank you, now it worked.

This will output a series of images tmp1.png to tmp12.png:

pdfdraw.exe -o tmp%%d.png sg3525.pdf %1-12

This will output tmp1.png to tmp4.png plus tmp8.png to tmp10.png:

pdfdraw.exe -o tmp%%d.png sg3525.pdf %1-4,8-10

Georg