DOS ain't dead

Eric Auer (known from the famous AuerDOS ) released CTMOUSE 2.1 beta 4

What's new:

- Compiles with JaWasm instead of TA$M
- Works in QEMU again

Bugs:

- No piece of docs updated (not even history)
- Outputs some garbage (see shot)



http://www.coli.uni-saarland.de/~eric/stuff/soft/mixed/

http://www.coli.uni-saarland.de/~eric/stuff/soft/mixed/cutemouse21b4-jwasm.zip 210 KiB ZIP

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Links fixed:

> http://www.coli.uni-saarland.de/~eric/stuff/soft/mixed/
>
> http://www.coli.uni-saarland.de/~eric/stuff/soft/mixed/cutemouse21b4-jwasm.zip
> 210 KiB ZIP

> Links fixed:

How ?

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> > Links fixed:
>
> How ?

Click Reply in your original message and in mine. Compare.

> Eric Auer (known from the famous
> AuerDOS
> ) released CTMOUSE 2.1 beta 4

Beware that this new version disables wheel support by default and changes the meaning of some options (/O /Y).

> - Outputs some garbage (see shot)

Did you report to Eric?

EDIT: reported to Freedos-user mailing list by me

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> > - Outputs some garbage (see shot)
>
> Did you report to Eric?
>
> EDIT: reported to Freedos-user mailing list by me

Eric's answer: "This is debugging output about the mouse and/or wheel detection."

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> Beware that this new version disables wheel support by default

Why I wonder? Is there any wheel-unaware software that breaks with the older version of CuteMouse?

> > Beware that this new version disables wheel support by default
>
> Why I wonder? Is there any wheel-unaware software that breaks with
> the older version of CuteMouse?

I don't know, but this new release supports Dell Inspiron (whereas previous it was misdetected).

> Eric's answer: "This is debugging output about the mouse and/or wheel detection."

I see .. as suspected but why is it the default ?

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> > Eric's answer: "This is debugging output about the mouse and/or wheel
> detection."
>
> I see .. as suspected but why is it the default ?

Because it's a beta version.

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> Because it's a beta version.

and really suport whell? older version works with my cordless
mouse on PS/2, this any result ?

> > Because it's a beta version.
>
> and really suport whell? older version works with my cordless
> mouse on PS/2, this any result ?

Sorry, but I don't understand.

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> and really suport whell? older version works with my cordless
> mouse on PS/2, this any result ?

Did you use it with the option '/O' in order to enable wheel support? The meaning of the option has been inverted.

> "...[The bourgeois] has left no other nexus between man and man than naked self-interest, than callous 'cash payment'."
Karl Marx & Friedrich Engels - "The Communist Manifesto"


"...je ne suis pas Marxiste" - Karl Marx

> Did you use it with the option '/O' in order to enable wheel support? The
> meaning of the option has been inverted.

yes, /3 /R0 /O ... partly broken graphics display with mouse
messages but whell doesn`t work

> yes, /3 /R0 /O ... partly broken graphics display with mouse
> messages but whell doesn`t work

What software are you trying to use the wheel in? A list of apps supporting the mouse wheel is in DOS apps w/ wheel support.

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> What software are you trying to use the wheel in? A list of apps
> supporting the mouse wheel is in DOS apps w/ wheel
> support.

tested with Arachne 1.93, ctmouse beta 1 sometime worked with arachne,
really I don`t know if ctmouse support whell on my mouse.

> tested with Arachne 1.93, ctmouse beta 1 sometime worked with arachne,
> really I don`t know if ctmouse support whell on my mouse.

I can use the wheel in Arachne 1.93 without problems with my PS/2 (wire) mouse and ctmouse 2.1b4.

> > "...[The bourgeois] has left no other nexus between man and man than
> naked self-interest, than callous 'cash payment'."
> Karl Marx & Friedrich Engels - "The Communist Manifesto"
>
>
> "...je ne suis pas Marxiste" - Karl Marx

It's enough now, Steve!

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rr wrote:

> Because it's a beta version.

YES, but we had 1'000'000 Alphas and Betas in last 8 years and they all were debug-disabled

david wrote:

> tested with Arachne 1.93, ctmouse beta 1 sometime worked with arachne,
> really I don`t know if ctmouse support whell on my mouse.

1. It's wheel not [w]hell

2. Please place a proper bug report ... "sometime worked with arachne" is not very informative ... All >= 1.9.1 versions of CTMOUSE did work for me with Arachne ...

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> rr wrote:
>
> > Because it's a beta version.
>
> YES, but we had 1'000'000 Alphas and Betas in last 8 years and they all
> were debug-disabled
>
> david wrote:
>
> > tested with Arachne 1.93, ctmouse beta 1 sometime worked with arachne,
> > really I don`t know if ctmouse support whell on my mouse.
>
> 1. It's wheel not [w]hell

It's wheel hell
>
> 2. Please place a proper bug report ... "sometime worked with arachne" is
> not very informative ... All >= 1.9.1 versions of CTMOUSE did work for me
> with Arachne ...

Looks like a quote from a comment by rr on one of your bug reports.

> > > "...[The bourgeois] has left no other nexus between man and man than
> > naked self-interest, than callous 'cash payment'."
> > Karl Marx & Friedrich Engels - "The Communist Manifesto"
> >
> >
> > "...je ne suis pas Marxiste" - Karl Marx
>
> It's enough now, Steve!

OK, I'll try to be nice. But the quote is accurate.

> > 2. Please place a proper bug report ... "sometime worked with arachne"
> is
> > not very informative ... All >= 1.9.1 versions of CTMOUSE did work for
> me
> > with Arachne ...
>
> Looks like a quote from a comment by rr on one of your bug reports.

It's nice, that he tries to evolve. Support this!

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> > Looks like a quote from a comment by rr on one of your bug reports.
>
> It's nice, that he tries to evolve. Support this!

I do, 100%.

> 1. It's wheel not [w]hell
>
> 2. Please place a proper bug report ... "sometime worked with arachne" is
> not very informative ... All >= 1.9.1 versions of CTMOUSE did work for me
> with Arachne ...

Yea, "wheel" ... I will explain more detail of mouse version beta 1 in
Arachne. I opened INBOX, then I used wheel to scroll screen with messages,
then I went to www and open html document a come back to INBOX, where
whell didn`t work yet. Beta 4 doesn`t work at all.
But Beta 1 was very improved than cutemouse 2 or 1.9, which very often freeze
all DR-DOS system.

> It's nice, that he tries to evolve. Support this!

There are other people too on this board who should evolve, but they don't even try to do this because they consider themselves smart enough. Unfortunately this is not the case. I don't understand why DOS386 is so much ironized, at least he sacrifices from his time for testing software.

> > "...[The bourgeois] has left no other nexus between man and man than
> naked self-interest, than callous 'cash payment'."
> Karl Marx & Friedrich Engels - "The Communist Manifesto"
>
>
> "...je ne suis pas Marxiste" - Karl Marx

"I have never succumbed to the error that I have often noticed in workers and petty-bourgeois intellectuals who despite everything could never free themselves entirely from their awe of the capitalist world. The hatred and contempt I had felt for life under capitalism ever since my childhood preserved me from this."
Lukács György - "History & Class Consciousness", Preface to the New Edition, 1967

> It's enough now, Steve!

This is a DOS thread and I can't continue to bear Steve's frolics. If Steve preferes to make a laughing-stock of himself in public and not in private, let it be.

> > "...je ne suis pas Marxiste" - Karl Marx
>
> "I have never succumbed to the error that I have often noticed in workers
> and petty-bourgeois intellectuals who despite everything could never free
> themselves entirely from their awe of the capitalist world. The hatred and
> contempt I had felt for life under capitalism ever since my childhood
> preserved me from this."
> Lukács György

Is this supposed to be taken seriously? Of course he despised the workers and petty-bourgeois - he was the son of a banker, and never had a real job in his life. But he hated his father, too. Big problem - what to do? Join the revolution! At the top, of course. Rose to Minister of Culture in Hungary, in charge of crushing the ideas that had flowered in 1956.

But I digress. We must not let Marx get in the way of Stalinism Marxism.

> > It's enough now, Steve!
>
> This is a DOS thread and I can't continue to bear Steve's frolics. If
> Steve preferes to make a laughing-stock of himself in public and not in
> private, let it be.

In a discussion of socialism, I can't quote Marx? And it was Karl, not Groucho.

A complaint from you, who claims to enjoy playing the troll for amusement, is especially funny.

> In a discussion of socialism, I can't quote Marx?

Good point ... but maybe there are 2 additional and even more crucial points left:

- This was about CTMOUSE, not SOCIALISM

- CTMOUSE and SOCIALISM are 2 different things

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> > In a discussion of socialism, I can't quote Marx?
>
> Good point ... but maybe there are 2 additional and even more crucial
> points left:
>
> - This was about CTMOUSE, not SOCIALISM
>
> - CTMOUSE and SOCIALISM are 2 different things

A subjective matter. They are the same in that both discussions have ended.

> the same in that both discussions have ended.

Then I assume you won't pollute any CTMOUSE related discussions in future.

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> > the same in that both discussions have ended.
>
> Then I assume you won't pollute any CTMOUSE related discussions in future.

> Then I assume you won't pollute any CTMOUSE related discussions in future.