nico7550
10.07.2025, 09:04 |
Bootsector and DMF disk (Users) |
Hi,
Can you explain to me why a DMF floppy disk freeze at boot when the same disk but in 1.44Mb format (the DMF file converted using WinImage) works?
I have the problem with older DOS but not with more recent ones so I assume it's a problem of unsupported format in the kernel files?
Thanks
Upload of my test images:
megawrzuta.pl/mmctkfxc |
roytam
11.07.2025, 07:45
@ nico7550
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Bootsector and DMF disk |
as DMF has more sectors per track (normal: 18, DMF: 21), kernel may not know part of itself is in "extra" sectors of same track. |
nico7550
12.07.2025, 08:21
@ roytam
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Bootsector and DMF disk |
> as DMF has more sectors per track (normal: 18, DMF: 21), kernel may not
> know part of itself is in "extra" sectors of same track.
Thanks, so there nothing that can be done...(?) |
roytam
12.07.2025, 11:50
@ nico7550
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Bootsector and DMF disk |
> > as DMF has more sectors per track (normal: 18, DMF: 21), kernel may not
> > know part of itself is in "extra" sectors of same track.
>
> Thanks, so there nothing that can be done...(?)
For FreeDOS, maybe you can modify its boot sector source and FreeDOS boot related source to handle BPB and DMF disk? |
fritz.mueller

Munich, Germany, 12.07.2025, 11:52
@ nico7550
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Bootsector and DMF disk |
https://archive.org/details/vgacp625
vgacopy says that it supports DMF (Win98), I already tested it with FreeDOS and 3,5 inch diskettes, worked fine, but I do not know if the older 5,25 diskettes are supported too. |
nico7550
12.07.2025, 23:04
@ fritz.mueller
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Bootsector and DMF disk |
Even if we slightly switch of subject, thanks.
1. The maybe only impossible solution will be to have 2 types of track size, 18 sectors for around 250-300Kb and 21 sectors for the rest of the disk, or someking of dual partitions?
2. Can someone test 2M please, I try on 86BOX and QEMU, I still got density error when I try to format using MS-DOS format or 2MF? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=venQZPVeCNs / http://www.win3x.org/win3board/viewtopic.php?t=25019&view=min). Even using VGACOPY and selecting the 2M size didn't works... |
roytam
13.07.2025, 05:55
@ nico7550
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Bootsector and DMF disk |
> Even if we slightly switch of subject, thanks.
>
> 1. The maybe only impossible solution will be to have 2 types of track
> size, 18 sectors for around 250-300Kb and 21 sectors for the rest of the
> disk, or someking of dual partitions?
>
> 2. Can someone test 2M please, I try on 86BOX and QEMU, I still got density
> error when I try to format using MS-DOS format or 2MF?
> (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=venQZPVeCNs
> /
> http://www.win3x.org/win3board/viewtopic.php?t=25019&view=min).
> Even using VGACOPY and selecting the 2M size didn't works...
emulators don't support custom size of floppy well. |
marcov
25.07.2025, 23:10
@ nico7550
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Bootsector and DMF disk |
> Can you explain to me why a DMF floppy disk freeze at boot when the same
> disk but in 1.44Mb format (the DMF file converted using WinImage)
> works?
Hardcoded values in the bootsector/and or a bios call there that doesn't support DMF ? |