DOS ain't dead

DJGPP love Window$ ? (Developers)

posted by Rugxulo , Usono, 22.10.2013, 01:17

> I'm really missing what you are trying to quote here. Some quotes (like the
> pascal central ones are totally warped out of context (those mostly were a
> historic reflection on Pascal on Mac, before GPC and FPC entered the
> picture there)

Everyone has an opinion. There are already too many arguments about "us" vs. "them". It's irrational. On a purely technical level, it either works or it doesn't. But people can't even get the facts straight. They don't know, and they don't want to know. At best, it's passive indifference.

> And my remark had nothing to do with C vs Pascal, but about Dos developers
> not supporting tools that have a chance of survival, but conservatively
> sticking to old sentiments (like binary size, 16-bit, development on dos
> itself etc, which is what I meant with the 16-bit FPC discussion reference)
> and tools till it is too late.
>
> So to put it clear: I think that much too much resources to develop for dos
> go into doing it on dos.

It's not really true that "nobody stepped up" or "it doesn't work" or "it's dead". Some people actively and directly destroy things that are within their power to destroy. Things that work, are fully supported, have volunteers and testers (and patches, bugfixes, binaries). There's literally nothing you can do for some people, they reject any form of help because it doesn't fit their agenda. And they publicly and officially remove any support for competing tech because of that. Which makes things that much harder (even if you consider it fully within their legal rights, which I'm sure you do), even if you can (sometimes) fork and maintain privately. I just find it more than a little rude and dishonest, esp. when people still say the same old myths. I'm sorry, but destroying something that 99% (or 100%) already works feels wrong to me. It's just not true that nobody tried to help. Some projects won't accept help, they would rather directly destroy. It's technically called a "downgrade" to make things worse. It's not that "xyz is dead" but that "abc killed their own subproject using xyz" because it didn't fit their agenda.

Complete thread:

• DJGPP love Window$ ? - iw2evk, 14.09.2013, 14:07
  • DJGPP love Window$ ? - georgpotthast, 14.09.2013, 18:08
    • DJGPP love Window$ ? - iw2evk, 14.09.2013, 18:48
      • DJGPP love Window$ ? - Laaca, 15.09.2013, 07:38
      • DJGPP love Window$ ? - georgpotthast, 15.09.2013, 09:10
      • DJGPP love Window$ ? - Laaca, 15.09.2013, 12:13
        • DJGPP love Window$ ? - bocke, 16.09.2013, 02:54
    • DJGPP love Window$ ? - Rugxulo, 14.09.2013, 20:36
      • DJGPP love Window$ ? - iw2evk, 15.09.2013, 09:13
        • DJGPP love Window$ ? - georgpotthast, 15.09.2013, 10:49
          • DJGPP love Window$ ? - Rugxulo, 15.09.2013, 20:32
            • DJGPP love Window$ ? - bocke, 16.09.2013, 02:53
      • DJGPP love Window$ ? - georgpotthast, 15.09.2013, 10:14
        • DJGPP love Window$ ? - Rugxulo, 15.09.2013, 20:08
          • DJGPP love Window$ ? - RayeR, 16.09.2013, 13:45
          • DJGPP love Window$ ? - georgpotthast, 16.09.2013, 20:56
            • DJGPP love Window$ ? - Rugxulo, 01.10.2013, 08:25
        • DJGPP love Window$ ? - marcov, 16.09.2013, 19:58
          • DJGPP love Window$ ? - Rugxulo, 02.10.2013, 22:52
            • DJGPP love Window$ ? - Rugxulo, 05.10.2013, 22:50
              • DJGPP love Window$ ? - Rugxulo, 20.10.2013, 00:55
                • DJGPP love Window$ ? - Rugxulo, 20.10.2013, 01:59
                  • DJGPP love Window$ ? - marcov, 20.10.2013, 21:28
                    • DJGPP love Window$ ? - Rugxulo, 22.10.2013, 01:17