DOS ain't dead

FPC for DOS / FreeDOS (DOSX)

posted by Japheth , Germany (South), 13.04.2008, 09:50

> To repeat myself: that is not my experience.

I got you already and there's no need to repeat yourself. OTOH, my repetition was forced by your claim that I failed "to come up with any sane reasons".

IMO it's absolutely "sane" if I prefer to decide what's to use based on MY experience and it would be somewhat "insane" if I take YOURs instead.

> > > the processing program (the
> > > assembler/compiler) has way less information to work with (and to
> check
> > > things) in the assembler case then in the compiler case.
> >
> > No.
>
> Your lack of counter arguments is disturbing.

If you are a "contributor" to FPC and since you also claimed to have written some code in assembly you should be aware that there is no real assembly language "standard" and there's also no clear border where a thing is no longer to be called an assembler and "starts" to be a compiler.

In other words, some assembler implementations deliberately "forget" the types of variables (NASM) and others have rather strong type checking. And nothing prevents you to write an assembler which - optionally - also will understand CLASS, VIRTUAL, FRIEND, ... and thus support OO directly.

In short, your claim is nonsense "by design" because basically there is no limit as to what degree an assembler is to collect and remember "type" information.

> Up to C++, yes, though not automatically. C# doesn't belong in that
> sequence IMHO. It is often put there for marketing, not technical reasons

I like C# and think it is perfectly valid to put it into this line. JIT compiling is regarded as "progress" by the "majority", so why not?

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MS-DOS forever!

Complete thread:

• HX-DOS Extender & Virtual Pascal 2.1.279 - ho1459, 14.03.2008, 14:28
  • HX-DOS Extender & Virtual Pascal 2.1.279 - Japheth, 15.03.2008, 11:26
    • HX-DOS Extender & Virtual Pascal 2.1.279 - Rugxulo, 16.03.2008, 19:15
      • HX-DOS Extender & Virtual Pascal 2.1.279 - ho1459, 17.03.2008, 21:07
      • HX-DOS Extender & Virtual Pascal 2.1.279 - marcov, 07.04.2008, 11:45
        • HX-DOS Extender & Virtual Pascal 2.1.279 - Rugxulo, 07.04.2008, 23:27
          • HX-DOS Extender & Virtual Pascal 2.1.279 - marcov, 08.04.2008, 13:28
            • HX-DOS Extender & Virtual Pascal 2.1.279 - Rugxulo, 08.04.2008, 15:58
              • HX-DOS Extender & Virtual Pascal 2.1.279 - marcov, 10.04.2008, 10:02
                • FPC for DOS / FreeDOS - Rugxulo, 11.04.2008, 07:14
                  • FPC for DOS / FreeDOS - marcov, 11.04.2008, 13:08
                    • FPC for DOS / FreeDOS - Rugxulo, 11.04.2008, 15:50
                      • FPC for DOS / FreeDOS - Japheth, 11.04.2008, 17:22
                      • FPC for DOS / FreeDOS - marcov, 11.04.2008, 19:50
                        • FPC for DOS / FreeDOS - Rugxulo, 12.04.2008, 00:43
                          • FPC for DOS / FreeDOS - marcov, 12.04.2008, 14:38
                            • FPC for DOS / FreeDOS - Rugxulo, 12.04.2008, 20:52
                              • FPC for DOS / FreeDOS - marcov, 13.04.2008, 23:36
                                • FPC for DOS / FreeDOS - Rugxulo, 14.04.2008, 20:40
                                  • FPC for DOS / FreeDOS - marcov, 14.04.2008, 21:59
                                    • FPC for DOS / FreeDOS - Rugxulo, 15.04.2008, 01:45
                                      • FPC for DOS / FreeDOS - marcov, 15.04.2008, 16:11
                                        • FPC for DOS / FreeDOS - Rugxulo, 16.04.2008, 02:23
                        • FPC for DOS / FreeDOS - Japheth, 12.04.2008, 07:33
                          • FPC for DOS / FreeDOS - marcov, 12.04.2008, 13:27
                            • FPC for DOS / FreeDOS - Japheth, 12.04.2008, 16:18
                              • FPC for DOS / FreeDOS - marcov, 13.04.2008, 02:54
                                • FPC for DOS / FreeDOS - Japheth, 13.04.2008, 09:50
                                  • FPC for DOS / FreeDOS - marcov, 13.04.2008, 23:17
                                    • Compiler debate - Steve, 14.04.2008, 05:51
                                    • FPC for DOS / FreeDOS - Japheth, 14.04.2008, 08:49
                                  • FPC for DOS / FreeDOS - marcov, 13.04.2008, 23:18
                                    • Compiler debate - Steve, 14.04.2008, 06:00
                                    • FPC for DOS / FreeDOS - Japheth, 14.04.2008, 08:21
                                      • FPC for DOS / FreeDOS - marcov, 14.04.2008, 11:12
                                        • FPC for DOS / FreeDOS - Japheth, 14.04.2008, 12:52
                                        • FPC for DOS / FreeDOS - Steve, 14.04.2008, 15:05
                            • FPC for DOS / FreeDOS - Rugxulo, 12.04.2008, 20:34
    • HX-DOS Extender & Virtual Pascal 2.1.279 - ho1459, 17.03.2008, 20:56
  • HX-DOS Extender & Virtual Pascal 2.1.279 - Laaca, 15.03.2008, 18:56
    • HX-DOS Extender & Virtual Pascal 2.1.279 - rr, 16.03.2008, 19:12