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IMPORTANT: Forum migration in November 2019 (Miscellaneous)

posted by marcov, 13.11.2019, 19:01

> English letters? You mean digraphs ("u:")? Or is there other functionality
> you wanted tested there? (I know you're not directly talking to me, just
> wondering.)

English has diaeresis/trema too, though usually it is used for place-names that don't follow modern English orthography. But yes, English has accents!

>
> Besides, (just to pretend to be smart) it's a modified Roman alphabet. (The
> Romans didn't have 'j', 'u', or 'w'. Even Esperanto calls 'w' "gxermana
> vo", i.e. "Germanic".)
>
> Someone should ask MarcoV (or maybe Eric Auer) for more advice. They're
> more educated than I am. (I found a book called _Old English and Its
> Closest Relatives_ for sale online, which basically compares "Gothic, Old
> Norse, Old Saxon, Old English, Old Frisian, Old Low Franconian, and Old
> High German"!!)

So middle (e.g. Franconian) dialects are discriminated against, while at the same time further removed dialects like High German and even non Western Germanic Gothic and Norse are included. Odd. Everybody seems to forget Luxembourg in Germanic language discussions.

I'm btw no linguist. I just started reading linguist (Germanisti(e)k) news and articles to keep track of a local dialect.

> I pointed Eric to
> Beowulf online a while back, saying it
> (unsurprisingly??) sounded like Swedish (although I don't speak/read that
> either).

Keep in mind that in the time of Beowulf, that many of the current separations of (West-) Germanic languages didn't exist. Coastal Dutch and German were mostly mutually intelligible with English.

Norse is afaik often dragged into the fold, even in discussions about West Germanic, because it has much newer and complete (up to the 12th century) sources for old Epics, while the West Germanic stuff is more like 5th.

Gothic and Burgundian are dead. Gothic is often dragged in because some of the earliest Germanic sources are Gothic. Burgundian sources are so scarce it is probably better to not mention it at all.

maltho thi afrio lito

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• IMPORTANT: Forum migration in November 2019 - rr, 29.09.2019, 17:36 (Miscellaneous)
  • IMPORTANT: Forum migration in November 2019 - rr, 26.10.2019, 22:58
    • IMPORTANT: Forum migration in November 2019 - KormaX, 28.10.2019, 00:33
      • IMPORTANT: Forum migration in November 2019 - rr, 05.11.2019, 20:57
        • IMPORTANT: Forum migration in November 2019 - KormaX, 06.11.2019, 20:06
          • IMPORTANT: Forum migration in November 2019 - rr, 07.11.2019, 09:49
        • IMPORTANT: Forum migration in November 2019 - Rugxulo, 07.11.2019, 00:45
          • IMPORTANT: Forum migration in November 2019 - rr, 07.11.2019, 09:52
            • IMPORTANT: Forum migration in November 2019 - KormaX, 08.11.2019, 09:23
              • IMPORTANT: Forum migration in November 2019 - rr, 11.11.2019, 20:22
                • IMPORTANT: Forum migration in November 2019 - Rugxulo, 12.11.2019, 01:58
                  • IMPORTANT: Forum migration in November 2019 - rr, 12.11.2019, 10:55
                    • IMPORTANT: Forum migration in November 2019 - Rugxulo, 15.11.2019, 03:34
                  • IMPORTANT: Forum migration in November 2019 - marcov, 13.11.2019, 19:01
                    • IMPORTANT: Forum migration in November 2019 - Rugxulo, 15.11.2019, 04:08
                      • IMPORTANT: Forum migration in November 2019 - rr, 17.11.2019, 13:14
          • IMPORTANT: Forum migration in November 2019 - Rugxulo, 02.12.2019, 20:59
            • IMPORTANT: Forum migration in November 2019 - Rugxulo, 02.12.2019, 21:01
            • IMPORTANT: Forum migration in November 2019 - rr, 03.12.2019, 21:18
  • IMPORTANT: Forum migration in November 2019 - rr, 17.11.2019, 14:12