DOS ain't dead

Aurora vs. others (Announce)

posted by marcov, 28.05.2008, 13:20

> > VI(M) is something meant for people that like pain and whips.

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> And still more vi clones exist (mostly 16-bit: steVIe, Elvis,
> XVI, Calvin, etc).

And Vigor! The most pain inflicting one of them all!!!

> They say that Emacs is hard on the hand but vi is hard on the brain.

They also say: "Emacs: great OS, bad editor"

> IMO,
> as long as you have online help (or self-documenting), it's moot. Vi tends
> to be lighter (usually single buffer, single window) and Emacs tends to be
> multi-buffer, multi-win, self-documenting, fully customizable.

Problem IMHO is that the customizability interferes with basic use cases. I want to spend my time editing text, not customizing my editor.

Note that for programming I usually use an IDE, not an editor. (some remote work with joe excluded). TP, TS, Delphi,FPIDE, Lazarus are the ones I used most. All in several versions. Three of them are TUIs with Dos versions.

> You'll
> almost always find some (static) vi pre-installed on various *nixes.

Only on the free unices. On commercial ones you are sometimes stuck with ed and "echo *" for dir, or worse, doing it with cat

I can operate all of these enough to install joe and minimal OS configuring.

Actually yesterday, I installed NetBSD on PPC, and it took me back to the days of Unix yore.

> P.S. I know you (marcov) already knew that vi was a full-screen visual
> improvement to ex, which was an improved ed (regex line editing, whee!).

And for dos users, ...edlin... The horror!

Complete thread:

• Registering Aurora text editor - rr, 26.05.2008, 15:01 (Announce)
  • Aurora vs. others - Rugxulo, 27.05.2008, 03:42
    • Aurora vs. others - rr, 27.05.2008, 09:43
      • Aurora vs. others - marcov, 28.05.2008, 10:15
        • Aurora vs. others - Rugxulo, 28.05.2008, 11:34
          • Aurora vs. others - marcov, 28.05.2008, 13:20
            • Aurora vs. others - Rugxulo, 04.06.2008, 02:06
              • INFOPAD & Kinesics - DOS386, 04.06.2008, 03:02
                • INFOPAD & Kinesics - Steve, 04.06.2008, 03:29
                  • INFOPAD & Kinesics - DOS386, 06.06.2008, 00:43
                    • INFOPAD & Kinesics - Steve, 06.06.2008, 01:07
                      • INFOPAD & Kinesics - DOS386, 06.06.2008, 03:15
                        • INFOPAD & Kinesics - Steve, 06.06.2008, 05:58
                    • INFOPAD & Kinesics - rr, 06.06.2008, 09:44