DOS ain't dead - Doom works in DOS!

Laaca

Czech republic,
23.01.2022, 12:56

Doom works in DOS! (Announce)

Sure, Doom works on everything includind medical sonography machine and ATM _mo_ney machines.
DOS was the first one. But how long is it from last DOS reimplementation. Quite long. However now I found a new and active DOS port called Tartar.
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/thread/126479

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glennmcc

North Jackson, Ohio (USA),
23.01.2022, 19:29

@ Laaca

Doom works in DOS!

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> Sure, Doom works on everything includind medical sonography machine and
> ATM _mo_ney machines.
> DOS was the first one. But how long is it from last DOS reimplementation.
> Quite long. However now I found a new and active DOS port called Tartar.
> https://www.doomworld.com/vb/thread/126479

That is great news !

DOOM & DOOM II were my very favorite games back in the 1990's
Spent thousands of hours staying up all night playing them. ;-)

And of-course created many levels of my own using WADED.

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Laaca

Czech republic,
23.01.2022, 21:54

@ Laaca

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After some browsing I found that there is also a active port Russian Doom
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Russian_Doom
and do not forgot to FastDoom https://doomwiki.org/wiki/FastDoom
(can be interresting for some enthusiastics for the CGA build)

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DosWorld

24.01.2022, 18:14
(edited by DosWorld, 24.01.2022, 18:25)

@ Laaca

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> and do not forgot to FastDoom

DOOM works in DOS. Again. :))

> (can be interresting for some enthusiastics for the CGA build)

I am try it (and text-mode versions also), looks impressive. Thanks!

PS: FastDOOM author wrote about 8mb ram. But, in my memory, Doom2 requires 4mb ram minimum, not 8mb. Or 2mb for shareware 1-eposde version. We use PC with 8mb ram for very smooth gameplay (network fights).
(or my sick brain deceiving me?)

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RayeR

CZ,
24.01.2022, 21:18

@ Laaca

Doom works in DOS!

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How about support PCI soundcards? Does it better than Doom Legacy or DosDoom?

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Laaca

Czech republic,
24.01.2022, 22:36

@ RayeR

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> How about support PCI soundcards? Does it better than Doom Legacy or
> DosDoom?

Unfortunately not. It relies to Allegro. But it supports heavy modding and various total conversions.

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DOS-u-akbar!

RayeR

CZ,
25.01.2022, 05:31

@ Laaca

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OK, I meant ZDoom, it can play via SB Audigy, has hi-res modes, 3D mouse look...

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Zyzzle

25.01.2022, 15:56

@ RayeR

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> OK, I meant ZDoom, it can play via SB Audigy, has hi-res modes, 3D mouse
> look...

Yes, ZDoom appears to be the best DOS port of DOOM, simply because as I recall it supports modern PCI soundcards in modern systems. I'm running Intel HD Audio on an core i7 in pure DOS, and I get perfect sound.

With all of the other DOS ports relying on Allegro, MIDAS or other obsolete audio packages, there is no sound on such a "modern" DOS system. I do not see how Tarter, COD, or these newer DOS ports of DOOM improve on ZDoom (except perhaps to support more or larger custom WADs). Further, DOOM MBF DOS version which is a very recent port, also doesn't support modern PCI sound.

RayeR

CZ,
26.01.2022, 02:05

@ Zyzzle

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Except it doesn't play MIDI music as SBA/HDA doesn't have HW wawetable...

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Zyzzle

26.01.2022, 04:04

@ RayeR

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> Except it doesn't play MIDI music as SBA/HDA doesn't have HW wawetable...

But, I've played MIDI tunes with IDH, for example with the Russian DSS player for DOS or Open Cubic player for DOS. These play from the original 8 MB GUS wavetable / soundfont patches which are read into RAM and a Wavetable audio card is simulated using those 127 .WAV samples (instrument patches).

ZDoom doesn't offer this capability.