DOS ain't dead - Updated VMware products available

Berlin, Germany,
04.09.2008, 16:23

Updated VMware products available (Announce)

VMware has released updated versions of their free virtualization products VMware Player and VMware Server on 28 August 2008. Updates address several security issues.

Additionally the VMware ESXi hypervisor is also available for free since 28 July 2008.

I) VMware Player 2.0.5
Home page: http://www.vmware.com/products/player/
Download: http://www.vmware.com/download/player/download.html (170 MB)
Changes: http://www.vmware.com/support/player2/doc/releasenotes_player2.html

II) VMware Player 1.0.8
Home page: http://www.vmware.com/products/player/
Download: http://www.vmware.com/download/player/download.html (28 MB)
Changes: http://www.vmware.com/support/player/doc/releasenotes_player.html

III) VMware Server 1.0.7
Home page: http://www.vmware.com/products/server/
Download: http://www.vmware.com/download/server/ (147 MB, free registration required!)
Changes: http://www.vmware.com/support/server/doc/releasenotes_server.html

IV) VMware ESXi 3.5 Installable Update 2
Home page: http://www.vmware.com/products/esxi/
Download: http://www.vmware.com/download/esxi/ (238 MB, free registration required!)
Changes: http://www.vmware.com/support/vi3/doc/vi3_esx3i_i_35u2_vc25u2_rel_notes.html

EDIT: added file sizes

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Berlin, Germany,
25.09.2008, 11:00

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VMware has released updated versions of their free virtualization products VMware Player and VMware Server on 23 September 2008.

I) VMware Player 2.5
Home page: http://www.vmware.com/products/player/
Download: http://www.vmware.com/download/player/download.html (65 MB)
Changes: http://www.vmware.com/support/player25/doc/releasenotes_player25.html

II) VMware Server 2.0
Home page: http://www.vmware.com/products/server/
Download: http://www.vmware.com/download/server/ (unbelievable 575 MB, free registration required!)
Changes: http://www.vmware.com/support/server2/doc/releasenotes_vmserver2.html

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Berlin, Germany,
25.11.2008, 22:56

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Berlin, Germany,
26.11.2008, 21:06

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On the subject of VMware: If you're confused, which product to use, I use VMware Player 2.5 + qemu-img.exe + hand-crafted VMX configuration files.

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Rugxulo

Usono,
28.11.2008, 00:01

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> On the subject of VMware: If you're confused, which product to use, I use
> VMware Player 2.5 + qemu-img.exe + hand-crafted VMX configuration files.

Does it run better than others? Is it faster or more stable or more compatible? I mean, I like and use QEMU, but it ain't perfect by any means.

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Khusraw

Bucharest, Romania,
28.11.2008, 16:11
(edited by Khusraw, 28.11.2008, 17:44)

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> Does it run better than others? Is it faster or more stable or more
> compatible? I mean, I like and use QEMU, but it ain't perfect by any
> means.

Personally I tried almost all PC virtualization software and I find VirtualBox the best. Microsoft's Virtual PC works many times where VirtualBox fails, but it is very slow. Not too much success in the things I'm interested with QEMU, Bochs or VMware.

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Berlin, Germany,
01.12.2008, 22:06

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> Personally I tried almost all PC virtualization software and I find
> VirtualBox the best. Microsoft's Virtual PC works many times where
> VirtualBox fails, but it is very slow. Not too much success in the things
> I'm interested with QEMU, Bochs or VMware.

The bad thing about VirtualBox is, that Sun dropped support for Windows 2000 hosts already in version 1.6. :-| One can hack later installers to continue to work, but then you are on your own.

One can still get version 1.5.6 from here.

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Khusraw

Bucharest, Romania,
02.12.2008, 16:57
(edited by Khusraw, 02.12.2008, 17:08)

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> The bad thing about VirtualBox is, that Sun dropped support for Windows
> 2000 hosts already in version 1.6. :-| One can hack later
> installers to continue to work, but then you are on your own.

I am a hobby/toy OS collector, and I use those emulators for them, not to run DOS. I use the emulators with Windows XP, and sincerely Virtual PC is by far the most compatible, the problem is that on my system it is too slow. From the rest, VirtualBox usually still does a good job when the others fail and it is fast enough, so I use it most times.

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Rugxulo

Usono,
06.12.2008, 12:10

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> > The bad thing about VirtualBox is, that Sun dropped support for Windows
> > 2000 hosts already in version 1.6. :-| One can hack later
> > installers to continue to work, but then you are on your own.
>
> I am a hobby/toy OS collector, and I use those emulators for them, not to
> run DOS. I use the emulators with Windows XP, and sincerely Virtual PC is
> by far the most compatible, the problem is that on my system it is too
> slow. From the rest, VirtualBox usually still does a good job when the
> others fail and it is fast enough, so I use it most times.

Seems that VirtualBox runs okay (faster SSE2 than QEMU although your mileage may vary), but I had trouble downloading from their site. Eventually, I just got it from FileHippo. Runs the latest OpenSolaris (whereas my real hardware doesn't, go figure). Of course, on a side note, I don't know why GCC isn't preinstalled (and I don't think it's even on the disk although much other fluff is). Seems crappy, but at least I found SchilliX DVD (also runs under VirtualBox) that has GCC/G++ 3.4.3 (although C++ support is improperly setup and no static libs, meh). I really think even FreeDOS needs to put GCC on its .ISOs in the future since it's so useful. But whatever, maybe you guys disagree. (I hacked a small DOS one, GCC 2.95.3, to fit on floppy, and now it can be unpacked via 7zdec + extar. Anybody interested?)

P.S. Is VirtualBox supposed to support USB as if hard drive or only if bootable? (Seems the latter else I'm doing it wrong.) If it's based upon QEMU, can it do something similar to "fat:/mydir/mysubdir"??

Khusraw

Bucharest, Romania,
06.12.2008, 13:35

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> P.S. Is VirtualBox supposed to support USB as if hard drive or only if
> bootable? (Seems the latter else I'm doing it wrong.) If it's based upon
> QEMU, can it do something similar to "fat:/mydir/mysubdir"??

If I correctly understand what you mean, AFAIK this still isn't supported. In case you want to share folders between the host and guest OS, please see Chapter 4.6 from their "User Manual" and this.

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Rugxulo

Usono,
07.12.2008, 20:37

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sharing files b/w host and guest OSes

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> > P.S. Is VirtualBox supposed to support USB as if hard drive or only if
> > bootable? (Seems the latter else I'm doing it wrong.) If it's based
> upon
> > QEMU, can it do something similar to "fat:/mydir/mysubdir"??
>
> If I correctly understand what you mean, AFAIK this still isn't supported.
> In case you want to share folders between the host and guest OS, please
> see Chapter 4.6 from their "User Manual" and
> this.

Ugh, that is not ideal at all! I guess I'll stick to QEMU for that. (I wonder if VirtualBox is compatible with any QEMU HD images.)

Berlin, Germany,
30.11.2008, 18:39

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> > On the subject of VMware: If you're confused, which product to use, I
> use
> > VMware Player 2.5 + qemu-img.exe + hand-crafted VMX configuration
> files.
>
> Does it run better than others? Is it faster or more stable or more
> compatible? I mean, I like and use QEMU, but it ain't perfect by any
> means.

You probably misunderstood. I also still use VPC, QEMU, Bochs (in that order). :-)

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10.01.2009, 22:56

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> On the subject of VMware: If you're confused, which product to use, I use
> VMware Player 2.5 + qemu-img.exe + hand-crafted VMX configuration files.

I switched to Player 1.0.9 now, because it has better sound emulation (less crackling) for DOS guests. Interestingly SB16's DIAGNOSE.EXE doesn't play anything on the left channel?! Can anybody confirm this?

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