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Vehudis

19.03.2010, 14:33
 

Problem? with Explorer PC (Users)

I tried the file manager Explorer PC mentioned in the section Links on the main BTTR website, but menus (File, Edit, Tools) don't work. Are they just graphic part of the whole Explorer window or do they contain any commands?

Arjay

19.03.2010, 15:48
(edited by Arjay, 20.03.2010, 11:43)

@ Vehudis
 

Problem? with Explorer PC

> I tried the file manager Explorer PC mentioned in the section Links on the
> main BTTR website, but menus (File, Edit, Tools) don't work. Are they just
> graphic part of the whole Explorer window or do they contain any commands?

Ok, having downloaded Explorer PC v0.86 for myself (for the first time) and tested it/reviewed the source. It would definitely appear that "File, Edit, Tools" was NOT implemented in Explorer PC v0.86 by the programs author, Pablo Corro Corte. In addition from studying the source it would also appear that Explorer PC is mouse only and the only way to quit from the program appears to be via the [X] in the top right hand corner. [which on one of my test boxes was "off screen"]. See also below his original sourceforge submission request which can be seen here and confirms not everything was functional when Explorer PC was first submitted to sourceforge:


###### ORIGINAL SUBMISSION DETAILS ######

System Group Name: explorerpc
Full Name: Explorer PC
Type: Official GNU software
License: GNU General Public License V2 or later
Other License:
Description: Explorer PC, is a project that it has by purpose of building a graphical file manager, friendly and totally free. This is developed in Turbo Assembler but at the moment is not totally functional.  It can also be compiled using Macro Assembler. It is for the operating system FreeDOS (www.freedos.org). The people have the idea that that DOS are a black screen but this program demonstrates the opposite and with a very small and very easy to use. When this Fundation approve my project the source that all they can download it as free. Requirements: 1.- Operating System FREEDOS or compatible.2.- Support for long filenames normally driver is loaded3.- VESA Compatible Video Card.4.- Mouse5.- 200Kb of free memory.
This is here:   http://www.geocities.com/xxideveloper/explorer.zip
Other Software Required:
Other Comments:



In the v0.86 distribution ZIP there was also a link to his website which was on Geocities (now closed). Currently the only cache of his Geocities website are a few graphics files here. No other caches of his website appear to currently available either on archive.org or reocities, however it is possible a more complete cache may appear on archive.org within weeks according to their Geocities page: http://www.archive.org/web/geocities.php however his email address was also in the ZIP file as well (see copying.txt), so I would suggest dropping him an email to see if he has released an updated version somewhere else (doing a few searches it doesn't look like it to me though) - only v0.86 appears to have been released.


Technical comments: The EXE file in the v0.86 distribution was compressed with UPX. Uncompressed the file is 112,152 bytes (compressed size in the distribution is 14,357 bytes). A quick review of the uncompressed EXE, highlighted that the DATA takes about 96,848 bytes (mostly null values) and the CODE (currently across several segments) is about 15304 bytes - thus Explorer PC could be optimized down to a single segment (COM format) etc.

Vehudis

21.03.2010, 07:38

@ Arjay
 

Explorer PC

I tried contact the author. With success. He answered, that he is going to continue his project. I sent him a few user suggestions for improving his program:
> - active menus - File, Edit, Tools
> - opening of a menu by right clicking a file
> - wheel mouse support (alias scrolling) and
> - dragging & dropping of a file (from right to left pane)
If you can program, you can send him suggestions in light of a programmer.

Arjay

21.03.2010, 13:52

@ Vehudis
 

Explorer PC

> I tried contact the author. With success. He answered, that he is going to
> continue his project.
This is excellent news!! As you are in contact with him would you mind sending him a link to the BTTR forum / this thread? Hopefully he will then join here.

> I sent him a few user suggestions for improving his program:
Very good suggestions.

> If you can program, you can send him suggestions in light of a programmer.
Yes, I have a few of my own:

- Supporting a quit feature via keyboard (e.g. F10 or ESCape)
- Storing the resources differently, e.g. to allow others to easily alter.
- Changing his memory model, e.g. he should be able to eliminate the XMS need.

Arjay

06.05.2010, 02:29

@ Vehudis
 

Explorer PC

> He answered, that he is going to continue his project.
> I sent him a few user suggestions for improving his program:
Just interested have you heard any thing more from him?

Vehudis

06.05.2010, 09:05

@ Arjay
 

Explorer PC

> > He answered, that he is going to continue his project.
> > I sent him a few user suggestions for improving his program:
> Just interested have you heard any thing more from him?

Unfortunately no. He didn't specify, when he will continue to develop the Explorer PC. Could you eventually send him a message with your suggestions, link to this forum and a question, if ev. when he would/could continue developing of this utility?

Arjay

09.05.2010, 02:55

@ Vehudis
 

Explorer PC

> He didn't specify, when he will continue to develop the Explorer PC.
I guess when has time. From my digging when looking into this last time I remember data mining the info that he has now left uni and started a new job.

> Could you eventually send him a message with your suggestions,
> link to this forum and a question, if ev. when he would/could
> continue developing of this utility?

I will do at some point if I remember. In short my own suggestions were along the lines of reducing the need or having the option of not needing an external memory manager and getting the code into a single 64k segment (e.g. COM file).

Not essential but I would also suggest that he used some form of basic RLE (Run Length Encoding) on the images he uses. Indeed someone else has already done the work for him as there was some a good 128 byte 320x200x256 PCX display program also written in assembler with source that was doing the rounds at one point in the 1990's - I seem to remember it was freeware. Interestingly a PCX file header is 128 bytes in length meaning that yes with that code and a 320x200x256 PCX you could easily do the obvious fairly easily. ASM is great :)

Vehudis

17.05.2010, 09:40

@ Arjay
 

Explorer PC

I sent him a message:

> there are a few more suggestions for improving the Explorer PC utility:
> - ability to Quit via keyboard (e.g. Alt+X or Alt+Q or ESCape)
> - reducing the need or having the option of not needing an external memory manager and getting the code into a single 64k segment (e.g. COM file)
> - no need of DOSLFN dependency
>
> If you still like DOS, you can take a look at "our" forum:
> http://www.bttr-software.de/forum/forum.php?page=0&category=0&order=time

and got following answer:

> hello thanks to write
> my page in geocities is down
> you me can recommend another place to hosting a Web page?

> Thank's

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Berlin, Germany,
18.05.2010, 22:01

@ Vehudis
 

Explorer PC

> and got following answer:
>
> > hello thanks to write
> > my page in geocities is down
> > you me can recommend another place to hosting a Web page?

What's the problem? Explorer PC is already hosted at SF.net.

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