GPL: either version 3 of the license, or any later version (Announce)
> I look at GPL3 as the latest version of one of the best open source
> licenses. I generally agree with the philosophy that if you pick
> something
We roughly agree, specially on the bit that forcing people to do the morally good thing is hard.
And that brings us to the force bit, and the place where we differ. IMHO the GPL should only be applied in special, strategic cases, and in most common cases the force bit hurts more than it helps, while your position could be summoned up as "force, just in case"
And I already described one prime example of that pain: getting usage of the GPL approved in corporate hierarchies outside the handful of IT multinationals. Even if the planned usage would be completely in line with the license.
The GPLv3 worsens this, it tries to screw an handful vendors out of some minor customization and scripts. (and usually these are not the smartest ones, since otherwise they wouldn't get caught.
On the flip side however, people using the GPLv3 only internally might have to rework their infrastructure if something tied to a GPLed part suddenly faces outwards. And decide to avoid the GPLv3 all together, IMHO rightfully so.
It does finely continue the GPL tradition of preparing for the worse though, damn the consequences
It caused the BSDs to defect (they halted upgrading of GNU software in base, and stick to the GPLv2 while they work frantically on deGNUifying base), and the Linux kernel to change its base license to GPLv2 only.
And I really wonder if whatever v3 brings is worth carving up the united OSS front.
P.s.
I found an old document I wrote that discusses the "force" argument a bit, as part of a very old BSD vs GPL discussion:
http://www.stack.nl/~marcov/bsdvslgpl.txt
note that these were quickly written down bulletpoints for what was going to be the finishing sheet(s) of a lecture, and it is deliberately put very crude and argumentative to provoke discussion after the lecture. Don't worry, my own opinions are slightly more nuanced (the biggest flaw is heaping LGPL and GPL together)
Complete thread:
- mTCP Open Source release - mbbrutman, 27.05.2011, 23:47 (Announce)
- mTCP GPL - ecm, 27.05.2011, 23:58
- GPLv3 - mbbrutman, 28.05.2011, 00:20
- GPL: either version 3 of the license, or any later version - ecm, 28.05.2011, 00:55
- GPL: either version 3 of the license, or any later version - mbbrutman, 28.05.2011, 01:09
- GPL: either version 3 of the license, or any later version - ecm, 28.05.2011, 01:18
- GPL: either version 3 of the license, or any later version - mbbrutman, 28.05.2011, 01:25
- download, compile, ... - ecm, 28.05.2011, 01:30
- GPL: either version 3 of the license, or any later version - mbbrutman, 28.05.2011, 01:25
- GPL: either version 3 of the license, or any later version - marcov, 30.05.2011, 09:37
- GPL: either version 3 of the license, or any later version - mbbrutman, 30.05.2011, 15:32
- What does the GPL allow? - ecm, 30.05.2011, 16:08
- What does the GPL allow? - mbbrutman, 30.05.2011, 16:30
- GPL something - ecm, 30.05.2011, 17:08
- GPL something - mbbrutman, 30.05.2011, 18:05
- theoretical licensing problems and such - ecm, 30.05.2011, 18:28
- licensing again... executables - ecm, 30.05.2011, 22:34
- licensing again... executables - mbbrutman, 31.05.2011, 03:33
- licensing again... executables - ecm, 31.05.2011, 13:59
- licensing again... executables - mbbrutman, 01.06.2011, 01:16
- licensing again... executables - ecm, 01.06.2011, 01:53
- licensing again... executables - mbbrutman, 01.06.2011, 02:17
- licensing again... executables - ecm, 01.06.2011, 15:49
- licensing again... executables - mbbrutman, 01.06.2011, 02:17
- licensing again... executables - ecm, 01.06.2011, 01:53
- licensing again... executables - mbbrutman, 01.06.2011, 01:16
- licensing again... executables - ecm, 31.05.2011, 13:59
- licensing again... executables - mbbrutman, 31.05.2011, 03:33
- GPL something - mbbrutman, 30.05.2011, 18:05
- What does the GPL allow? - Rugxulo, 30.05.2011, 18:14
- mTCP in DOSEMU; Linux kernel developers' GPLv2-only reasons - ecm, 30.05.2011, 22:38
- What does the GPL allow? - marcov, 30.05.2011, 22:49
- What does the GPL allow? - mbbrutman, 31.05.2011, 03:41
- What does the GPL allow? - mbbrutman, 31.05.2011, 04:18
- What does the GPL allow? - Japheth, 30.05.2011, 18:47
- Gift trolls and other curiosities - ecm, 30.05.2011, 19:20
- Gift trolls and other curiosities - mbbrutman, 30.05.2011, 19:54
- editing - ecm, 30.05.2011, 20:03
- Gift trolls and other curiosities - mbbrutman, 30.05.2011, 19:54
- Gift trolls and other curiosities - ecm, 30.05.2011, 19:20
- What does the GPL allow? - marcov, 30.05.2011, 22:38
- GPL something - ecm, 30.05.2011, 17:08
- What does the GPL allow? - marcov, 30.05.2011, 22:37
- What does the GPL allow? - mbbrutman, 30.05.2011, 16:30
- GPL: either version 3 of the license, or any later version - marcov, 30.05.2011, 22:35
- GPL: either version 3 of the license, or any later version - mbbrutman, 30.05.2011, 22:56
- GPL: either version 3 of the license, or any later version - marcov, 02.06.2011, 16:10
- GPL: either version 3 of the license, or any later version - mbbrutman, 03.06.2011, 04:12
- GPL: either version 3 of the license, or any later version - marcov, 03.06.2011, 13:36
- GPL: either version 3 of the license, or any later version - Rugxulo, 03.06.2011, 16:45
- GPL: either version 3 of the license, or any later version - marcov, 03.06.2011, 13:36
- GPL: either version 3 of the license, or any later version - mbbrutman, 03.06.2011, 04:12
- GPL: either version 3 of the license, or any later version - marcov, 02.06.2011, 16:10
- GPL: either version 3 of the license, or any later version - mbbrutman, 30.05.2011, 22:56
- What does the GPL allow? - ecm, 30.05.2011, 16:08
- GPL: either version 3 of the license, or any later version - mbbrutman, 30.05.2011, 15:32
- GPL: either version 3 of the license, or any later version - ecm, 28.05.2011, 01:18
- GPL: either version 3 of the license, or any later version - mbbrutman, 28.05.2011, 01:09
- GPL: either version 3 of the license, or any later version - ecm, 28.05.2011, 00:55
- GPLv3 - mbbrutman, 28.05.2011, 00:20
- mTCP and SwsVPkt - Japheth, 31.05.2011, 09:03
- mTCP and SwsVPkt - mbbrutman, 01.06.2011, 03:11
- mTCP and SwsVPkt - Japheth, 01.06.2011, 13:14
- mTCP and SwsVPkt - mbbrutman, 01.06.2011, 15:04
- polling - ecm, 01.06.2011, 16:07
- polling - Japheth, 01.06.2011, 17:12
- polling - ecm, 01.06.2011, 17:27
- polling - Japheth, 01.06.2011, 17:50
- polling - ecm, 01.06.2011, 17:55
- polling - Japheth, 01.06.2011, 18:39
- polling - ecm, 01.06.2011, 18:49
- polling - Japheth, 01.06.2011, 18:39
- polling - ecm, 01.06.2011, 17:55
- polling - Japheth, 01.06.2011, 17:50
- polling - ecm, 01.06.2011, 17:27
- polling - Japheth, 01.06.2011, 17:12
- mTCP and SwsVPkt - Japheth, 01.06.2011, 13:14
- mTCP and SwsVPkt - mbbrutman, 01.06.2011, 03:11
- mTCP GPL - ecm, 27.05.2011, 23:58