DOS ain't dead - MASM 5.10, RxDOS, DOS-C FreeDOS kernel ASM vs C

MASM 5.10, RxDOS, DOS-C FreeDOS kernel ASM vs C (Announce)

posted by DOS386, 24.10.2007, 02:58

> Use V5.1 MASM instead.

The code should be tiny enough to get adjusted to a more modern ASM standard ;-)

> If there was no fear of using MASM V5.10, FreeDOS could have had a much
> better kernel, written entirely in Assembler

Indeed, an ASM FreeDOS kernel would be much better :-| But "unfortunately", MASM 5.1 is not the only or unique ASM compiler in the universe ;-)

> which just needs fixing some bugs and further development to potentially
> become the best - RxDOS by Mike Podanoffsky

Nice source ... just doesn't compile with FASM ...

> Alas, what FreeDOS got instead was DOS-C by Pat Villani (who has also
> All this because of the free-software / open-source purism of some

It works ... the performance is suboptimal, there are some bugs, doesn't compile with FASM and I can't contribute to the kernel ... not ideal, but no better choice by now :-|

> Is it a so big crime to search for MASM510.ZIP and get this old
> but still rather useful rusty junk?

Depends. If you do it in "secret" for testing purposes and release a modernized NASM/FASM source or add MASM 5.1-syntax to YASM at the end - OK. But SORRY but copyright and legality is beyond discussability for me - there should be no room for piracy in the DOS community ...

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Complete thread:

Jack's drivers updated - Laaca, 13.10.2007, 13:48 (Announce)
- Corrected UIDE Coming. - Jack, 13.10.2007, 16:56
- Jack's drivers updated - Japheth, 14.10.2007, 11:17
  - MASM 5.10 - lucho, 14.10.2007, 18:35
    - Clarification - lucho, 14.10.2007, 18:41
    - MASM 5.10 - rr, 15.10.2007, 12:54
      - Open source development prohibited with MASM ?!? - lucho, 15.10.2007, 18:23
        Open source development prohibited with MASM ?!? - rr, 15.10.2007, 20:57
        Open source development prohibited with MA$M32 ?!? - DOS386, 16.10.2007, 01:53
        Open source development prohibited with MA$M32 ?!? - rr, 16.10.2007, 09:51
        Open source development prohibited with MASM ?!? - Steve, 16.10.2007, 13:35
        Open source development prohibited with MASM ?!? - Japheth, 16.10.2007, 19:31
        Steve Hutchesson's weird "MASM32" licence - lucho, 16.10.2007, 19:44
        Steve Hutchesson's weird "MASM32" licence - Rugxulo, 17.10.2007, 01:33
        Open source development prohibited with MASM ?!? - sol, 29.10.2007, 17:12
        Open source development prohibited with MASM ?!? - Rugxulo, 30.10.2007, 05:23
        Open source development prohibited with MASM ?!? - sol, 30.10.2007, 16:55
        Open source development prohibited with MASM ?!? - Rugxulo, 31.10.2007, 00:37
        Open source development NOT prohibited with MASM! - lucho, 31.10.2007, 20:24
      - If So, DELETE Your "Links". - Jack, 15.10.2007, 18:51
        If So, DELETE Your "Links". - lucho, 15.10.2007, 19:07
        don't worry - Rugxulo, 15.10.2007, 19:56
        If So, DELETE Your "Links". - Japheth, 15.10.2007, 23:02
      - Still "Linked", I See! - Jack, 15.10.2007, 20:22
    - MASM 5.10 - Japheth, 15.10.2007, 14:55
      - MASM 5.10 - lucho, 15.10.2007, 18:18
        MASM 5.10 - Japheth, 16.10.2007, 14:06
        MASM 5.10 and WASM - lucho, 16.10.2007, 17:44
        MASM 5.10 and WASM - Japheth, 16.10.2007, 18:06
        WASM - lucho, 16.10.2007, 18:41
      - NOT Responsible For Other Assemblers!! - Jack, 16.10.2007, 16:11
        MASM 5.10, RxDOS, DOS-C - lucho, 17.10.2007, 08:47
        MASM 5.10? No! - Japheth, 17.10.2007, 10:06
        DOS-C, RxDOS, EDR-DOS, MASM 5.10 - lucho, 17.10.2007, 12:24
        Quantity issues - Japheth, 17.10.2007, 12:54
        99% of DOS users run DOS in a Virtual Machine ?!? - lucho, 17.10.2007, 13:29
        99% of DOS users run DOS in a Virtual Machine ?!? - Japheth, 17.10.2007, 14:19
        Real DOS is still alive! - lucho, 17.10.2007, 14:32
        Quantity issues - Khusraw, 17.10.2007, 17:20
        Hello - Japheth, 17.10.2007, 18:21
        Hello - Khusraw, 17.10.2007, 18:31
        Hello - Japheth, 17.10.2007, 19:12
        Asynchronous synchronisation to ethics - lucho, 17.10.2007, 19:33
        Asynchronous synchronisation to ethics - Japheth, 17.10.2007, 19:55
        The German proverb about flies and something censored twice - lucho, 17.10.2007, 20:26
        The German proverb about flies and something censored twice - tom, 17.10.2007, 20:33
        Efficiency still counts! - lucho, 17.10.2007, 20:55
        The German proverb about flies and something censored twice - Japheth, 17.10.2007, 21:08
        Asynchronous synchronisation to ethics - Khusraw, 17.10.2007, 21:33
        Asynchronous synchronisation to ethics - Japheth, 17.10.2007, 21:41
        Hello - Khusraw, 17.10.2007, 19:48
        Quantity issues - DOS386, 24.10.2007, 02:41
        PRIDE Issues!! - Jack, 17.10.2007, 13:31
        Anyone Want a 1.75K UIDEJR?? - Jack, 17.10.2007, 20:09
        MASM 5.10, RxDOS, DOS-C FreeDOS kernel ASM vs C - DOS386, 24.10.2007, 02:58
        MASM 5.10, RxDOS, DOS-C FreeDOS kernel ASM vs C - Japheth, 24.10.2007, 15:08
        RxDOS. ASM vs C kernels. Cluster alocation of FreeDOS - lucho, 24.10.2007, 15:57
        MASM 5.10, WASM, Po-ASM, convincing "dialects" - DOS386, 25.10.2007, 06:41
        MASM 5.10, WASM, Po-ASM, convincing "dialects" - Japheth, 25.10.2007, 07:55
        MASM 5.10, WASM, Po-ASM, convincing "dialects" - Rugxulo, 26.10.2007, 02:32
        recompiling the FreeDOS kernel -- easy as pie - Rugxulo, 26.10.2007, 04:15
        recompiling the FreeDOS kernel -- easy as pie - DOS386, 26.10.2007, 08:18
        recompiling the FreeDOS kernel -- easy as pie - Rugxulo, 27.10.2007, 14:20
        RxDOS - lucho, 27.10.2007, 17:35
        RxDOS - Rugxulo, 28.10.2007, 02:01
        RxDOS | C vs ASM | purism | empty RX at SF ? - DOS386, 28.10.2007, 02:09
        RxDOS vs DOS-C - lucho, 28.10.2007, 09:45
        RxDOS vs DOS-C - tom, 29.10.2007, 11:23
        RxDOS vs DOS-C - Rugxulo, 29.10.2007, 13:53
        RxDOS - Steve, 28.10.2007, 04:57
        RxDOS - rr, 28.10.2007, 17:30
        RxDOS - Steve, 29.10.2007, 00:33
        RxDOS - Rugxulo, 29.10.2007, 13:55
        RxDOS - rr, 29.10.2007, 14:29
        RxDOS - rr, 31.10.2007, 15:36
        RxDOS - rr, 29.10.2007, 14:46
        RxDOS - Rugxulo, 30.10.2007, 05:26
        RxDOS - rr, 30.10.2007, 10:56
        RxDOS - Rugxulo, 01.11.2007, 03:11
        "C" For Systems Work Is ... - Jack, 17.10.2007, 13:13
        Bloatware! - lucho, 17.10.2007, 14:27
        Please not another C vs. ASM debate! - Japheth, 17.10.2007, 16:02
        Bloatware is not just "C vs. Assembler" - lucho, 17.10.2007, 19:13
        Then "Keepen Zie Mouth SHUT"!! - Jack, 17.10.2007, 16:09
        "C" For Systems Work Is ... - Steve, 25.10.2007, 15:12
    - MASM 5.10 - Jack, 15.10.2007, 18:22
- Corrected UIDE Available. - Jack, 14.10.2007, 14:44
  - Corrected UIDE Available. - lucho, 15.10.2007, 07:28