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Borland C/C++ 5.5.1 for Win32 (Developers)

posted by RayeR , CZ, 12.11.2009, 01:49

> Which MSVCRT? Which Windows? I don't think they are compatible, for the
> most part, hence you're kinda on your own.

I have msvcrt.dll in my Win98SE and all my mingw apps run fine there. If you don't use newer winapi funcs it's not problem under win9x.

> You only need to download it once, though, and like I said, if you develop
> some open source app, it doesn't need to distribute the .DLL with it (but
> you'll need to ship srcs too if you do include it).

Well but in some special cases, e.g. when need to copy prog on floppy to some old PC with windows it's faster to copy e.g. 8kB exe than loading 2 floppies. Of course on modern PC where you don't count the size it doesn't matter some megs+

> If something relies on GCC, it's not very portable. The standards are not
> written by GNU. Sadly, however, GCC still doesn't fully implement C99 yet,
> MSVC probably never will, OpenWatcom lacks POSIX (as does Cygwin), and even
> Cygwin is more Unix-y than Windows (almost). In other words, it's harder
> getting something working on several compilers than it probably should be.

Hm I didn't have problems with it. I use GCC under DOS, Win, Linux, ARM and AVR MCUs and most of code doesn't need changes. Of course except HW dependent stuffs. Yes cygwin is much more "Unix-y" but also slower due to providing this compatability layer.

> Actually, if you get the MinGW runtimes, you can build MinGW-ish apps from
> Cygwin ("-mno-cygwin", IIRC), best of both worlds.

Interesting, I didn't know this feature.

> The days of one app to rule them all (and in the darkness bind them) are
> over. You can no longer rely on Win32 apps working everywhere nor Linux
> apps nor DOS apps, etc. It's really annoying.

I don't understand, what one win32 app? I make separated dos, win, elf binaries.

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Complete thread:

• Borland C/C++ 5.5.1 for Win32 - Rugxulo, 30.10.2009, 21:28 (Developers)
  • Borland C/C++ 5.5.1 for Win32 - Japheth, 31.10.2009, 09:21
    • Borland C/C++ 5.5.1 for Win32 - Rugxulo, 31.10.2009, 19:49
      • Borland C/C++ 5.5.1 for Win32 - DOS386, 06.11.2009, 05:44
        • Borland C/C++ 5.5.1 for Win32 - Rugxulo, 07.11.2009, 17:33
          • Borland C/C++ 5.5.1 for Win32 - DOS386, 08.11.2009, 05:22
            • Borland C/C++ 5.5.1 for Win32 - Rugxulo, 09.11.2009, 04:36
              • Borland C/C++ 5.5.1 for Win32 - RayeR, 10.11.2009, 10:08
                • Borland C/C++ 5.5.1 for Win32 - Rugxulo, 11.11.2009, 01:06
                  • Borland C/C++ 5.5.1 for Win32 - RayeR, 11.11.2009, 03:12
                    • Borland C/C++ 5.5.1 for Win32 - Rugxulo, 11.11.2009, 04:51
                      • Borland C/C++ 5.5.1 for Win32 - RayeR, 12.11.2009, 01:49
                        • Borland C/C++ 5.5.1 for Win32 - Rugxulo, 12.11.2009, 03:04
                          • Borland C/C++ 5.5.1 for Win32 - RayeR, 12.11.2009, 12:08
                          • Borland C/C++ 5.5.1 for Win32 - ecm, 12.11.2009, 15:04
              • Borland C/C++ 5.5.1 for Win32 | MinGW - DOS386, 15.11.2009, 11:18
                • Borland C/C++ 5.5.1 for Win32 | MinGW - Rugxulo, 15.11.2009, 18:03
                  • Borland C/C++ 5.5.1 for Win32 | MinGW - DOS386, 22.11.2009, 11:48
  • Borland C/C++ 5.5.1 for Win32 - marcov, 01.11.2009, 00:18
    • Borland C/C++ 5.5.1 for Win32 - Rugxulo, 01.11.2009, 04:26