DOS ain't dead - BIG "C" compiler comparison thread

BIG "C" compiler comparison thread (Developers)

posted by Khusraw, 06.03.2008, 10:41
(edited by Khusraw on 06.03.2008, 14:03)

> I don't use OpenWatcom exclusively, but I do think (hope?) it's better at
> code generation than old Borland. Then again, I haven't tested enough to
> know for sure. I'm just glad for the alternative.

Surely that Open Watcom is better than Turbo/Borland C/C++, no one doubted this. But it's not as good as it could be. E. g. write a program which uses far pointer arithmetics, pass it to wcc with register calling convention and optimization enabled and then look over the assembly output and you'll understand what I mean. If you still have reasons to write 16-bit code and you are so concerned with code optimization, better use an assembler.

> No, I didn't try with Pacific C, so I dunno if it had warnings. The
> developer eventually released a recompiled version done by OpenWatcom, so
> everything is fine. (Try recompiling
> MD5SUM
> yourself if you're curious, and report back what you discover.)

Hard to belive, but I tried. Pacific C doesn't like fixed size arrays passed as parameters and it has a poor <dos.h>, but these are lack of features, not bugs. I don't think that the library is buggy, the developers would have provided some patches until now if this was a known thing.

> At least where I'm from (southern U.S.), I never hear it used, proper or
> common noun. Meh, I just don't like it. I just find it hard to believe
> they couldn't just have called it "PDEBUG" or whatever.

Actually I consider the name very suggestive for a debugger. It sheds light upon your code. ;-) About the Romanian word, you can see this (it's a Romanian explicative and etymologic dictionary, but the names of the stars are transparent in English too) and this (how the word can be translated into English). In conclusion no devil, only bright things.

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BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - DOS386, 04.03.2008, 02:07 (Developers)
- BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Steve, 04.03.2008, 05:08
  - BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - DOS386, 09.03.2008, 02:11
    - BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Steve, 09.03.2008, 09:40
- BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Japheth, 04.03.2008, 09:38
- BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - rr, 04.03.2008, 10:02
  - BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Rugxulo, 04.03.2008, 14:53
    - BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Japheth, 04.03.2008, 18:32
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    - BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Rugxulo, 05.03.2008, 01:11
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        BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - rr, 05.03.2008, 09:57
      - BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - rr, 05.03.2008, 10:01
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    - BIG "C" compiler comparison thread | evil TCC - Japheth, 09.03.2008, 08:41
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- BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Khusraw, 04.03.2008, 21:51
  - BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Rugxulo, 05.03.2008, 01:06
    - BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Steve, 05.03.2008, 01:50
    - BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Khusraw, 05.03.2008, 08:01
      - BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Rugxulo, 05.03.2008, 14:04
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        BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - tom, 08.03.2008, 21:50
        BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Rugxulo, 09.03.2008, 00:53
        BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Steve, 09.03.2008, 09:36
        BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - tom, 10.03.2008, 12:59
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        Free Pascal linking - marcov, 10.04.2008, 10:40
        Free Pascal linking - rr, 10.04.2008, 12:18
        Free Pascal linking - Rugxulo, 11.04.2008, 06:32
        Free Pascal linking - marcov, 11.04.2008, 14:20
        Free Pascal linking - Rugxulo, 11.04.2008, 16:16
        Free Pascal linking - marcov, 11.04.2008, 20:14
        compression / size wars - Rugxulo, 12.04.2008, 01:13
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        compression / size wars - Rugxulo, 01.05.2008, 05:32
        FAT OGG - DOS386, 01.05.2008, 05:44
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        Free Pascal linking - Steve, 12.04.2008, 05:19
        Free Pascal linking - marcov, 12.04.2008, 14:41
        Free Pascal linking - Steve, 12.04.2008, 16:09
        Free Pascal linking - marcov, 13.04.2008, 23:42
        Compression - Steve, 14.04.2008, 06:27
        Compression - marcov, 14.04.2008, 11:03
        Compression - Steve, 14.04.2008, 13:32
        Compression - Rugxulo, 14.04.2008, 20:00
        Compression - Steve, 14.04.2008, 20:16
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        Compression - Steve, 15.04.2008, 12:24
        Compression - marcov, 15.04.2008, 15:43
        Compression - Steve, 16.04.2008, 11:32
        Compression - Rugxulo, 14.04.2008, 19:55
        Compression - Steve, 14.04.2008, 20:44
        Compression - marcov, 15.04.2008, 09:59
        Compression - Steve, 15.04.2008, 11:55
        Compression - marcov, 15.04.2008, 15:24
        Compression - Rugxulo, 16.04.2008, 01:13
        Compression - Steve, 16.04.2008, 10:54
        Compression - marcov, 16.04.2008, 16:24
        Compression - Steve, 16.04.2008, 21:27
        Compression - marcov, 16.04.2008, 23:38
        Compression - Steve, 17.04.2008, 12:10
        BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Khusraw, 06.03.2008, 10:41
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        BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - RayeR, 10.03.2008, 17:56
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        BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - Steve, 13.03.2008, 04:10
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        BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - marcov, 10.04.2008, 10:22
        BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - Rugxulo, 11.04.2008, 06:27
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