FASM lacks OMF/OBJ support (16- / 32-bit) (Announce)
> And the solution is ? Write a HLL compiler in ASM as reportedly done with
> Virtual PASCAL ?
Obviously not since marcov says this is unmaintainable (as well as using proprietary crud, which is worse but was probably a sane decision at the time).
> > I addressed whether the OMF object or MZ executable format is required
> for
>
> It isn't absolutely. Just stay below 64 KiB or get around the segmenting
> yourself.
What was .OBJ originally needed for? Lack of RAM? One-pass assemblers?
> > since 16-bit PM isn't used much
>
> IIRC it never really worked ...
Tell that to OS/2 1.x. (Don't ask me why, but every dumb OS expects everyone to rewrite all their apps. Um, maybe we don't want to? Maybe that's too much trouble? Is a stable API that offensive??)
> While I heavily prefer the latter (ASM) ... that's what makes (in this
> point) CC386 great ... GCC less great (AT&T or "MASM-INTEL") and OW
> "shitty" (no ASM at all )
CC386 uses its own NASM fork, which isn't too far off from GCC's "intel". GCC is 1000x more useful with Intel syntax, we're quite fortunate that they finally implemented it. I guess AT&T is more portable or historic as well as being faster to parse. (Heck, some people prefer writing AT&T style for x86 code for some odd reason.)
And OW isn't bad, directly outputting .OBJ files is probably why it's so fast. (Their "OWCC -S" POSIX compiler driver just uses WDIS.EXE to generate the .ASM anyways.)
Complete thread:
- JWasm v1.8pre - Japheth, 17.06.2008, 11:04 (Announce)
- JWasm v1.8pre | killing MA$M now ??? - DOS386, 18.06.2008, 12:23
- JWasm v1.8pre | killing good MASM now ??? - Japheth, 18.06.2008, 14:34
- JWasm v1.8pre | killing good MASM now ??? | Compiling RxDOS - ecm, 18.06.2008, 16:58
- JWasm v1.8pre | killing good MASM now ??? | Compiling RxDOS - Japheth, 18.06.2008, 19:17
- JWasm v1.8pre | killing good MASM now ??? | Compiling RxDOS - Rugxulo, 18.06.2008, 19:38
- JWasm v1.8pre | killing good MASM now ??? | Compiling RxDOS - Rugxulo, 19.06.2008, 23:43
- JWasm v1.8pre | killing good MASM now ??? | Compiling RxDOS - ecm, 20.06.2008, 12:58
- JWasm v1.8pre | killing good MASM now ??? | Compiling RxDOS - Rugxulo, 19.06.2008, 23:43
- JWasm v1.8pre | killing good MASM now ??? | Compiling RxDOS - ecm, 18.06.2008, 19:46
- JWasm v1.8pre | killing good MASM now ??? | Compiling RxDOS - Japheth, 18.06.2008, 19:55
- JWasm v1.8pre | killing good MASM now ??? | Compiling RxDOS - Rugxulo, 18.06.2008, 19:38
- JWasm v1.8pre | killing good MASM now ??? | Compiling RxDOS - Japheth, 18.06.2008, 19:17
- JWasm v1.8pre | killing good MASM now ??? - DOS386, 19.06.2008, 08:33
- JWasm v1.8pre | killing good MASM now ??? - Japheth, 19.06.2008, 10:02
- rxdos + jwasm - Japheth, 20.06.2008, 07:47
- JWasm v1.8pre | WLINK | PO | M | VALX - DOS386, 20.06.2008, 09:33
- JWasm v1.8pre | killing good MASM now ??? - Japheth, 19.06.2008, 10:02
- JWasm v1.8pre | killing good MASM now ??? | Compiling RxDOS - ecm, 18.06.2008, 16:58
- JWasm v1.8pre | killing good MASM now ??? - Japheth, 18.06.2008, 14:34
- JWasm v1.8pre - Rugxulo, 07.08.2008, 07:09
- JWasm v1.9 available - Japheth, 07.08.2008, 10:04
- JWasm v1.8pre - Rugxulo, 20.08.2008, 22:29
- JWasm v1.8pre - rr, 21.08.2008, 14:37
- JWasm v1.8pre - Rugxulo, 21.08.2008, 22:04
- JWasm v1.8pre - rr, 21.08.2008, 22:36
- JWasm v1.8pre - Rugxulo, 21.08.2008, 22:04
- JWasm v1.8pre - rr, 21.08.2008, 14:37
- JWasm Forum - Japheth, 14.08.2008, 16:41
- JWasm Forum - Rugxulo, 17.08.2008, 00:25
- JWasm v1.91 - Japheth, 20.08.2008, 07:02
- JWasm v1.91 - DOS386, 20.08.2008, 07:52
- JWasm v1.91 - Japheth, 20.08.2008, 10:33
- JWasm v1.91 - DOS386, 20.08.2008, 07:52
- JWasm v1.92 is out - Japheth, 23.09.2008, 09:48
- JWasm v1.92 is out - DOS386, 23.09.2008, 16:06
- JWasm v1.92 is out - Japheth, 24.09.2008, 14:03
- JWasm v1.92 is out - Steve, 24.09.2008, 23:44
- JWasm v1.92 is out | fixed old bug | added new bug - DOS386, 25.09.2008, 15:55
- JWasm v1.92 is out | fixed old bug | added new bug - Japheth, 25.09.2008, 17:21
- JWasm v1.92 is out | many bugs found - DOS386, 04.10.2008, 04:39
- JWasm v1.92 is out | many bugs found - Japheth, 04.10.2008, 08:53
- JWasm v1.92 is out | many bugs found - Rugxulo, 04.10.2008, 20:28
- JWasm v1.92 is out | many bugs found - DOS386, 05.10.2008, 13:47
- JWasm v1.92 is out | many bugs found - Japheth, 04.10.2008, 08:53
- JWasm v1.92 is out | many bugs found - DOS386, 04.10.2008, 04:39
- JWasm v1.92 is out | fixed old bug | added new bug - Japheth, 25.09.2008, 17:21
- JWasm v1.92 is out - Japheth, 24.09.2008, 14:03
- JWasm v1.92 is out - DOS386, 23.09.2008, 16:06
- JWasm v1.93 is out - Japheth, 26.10.2008, 20:06
- JWasm v1.93 is out - DOS386, 29.10.2008, 09:46
- JWasm v1.93 is out - Japheth, 29.10.2008, 13:59
- JWasm v1.93 is out - ecm, 29.10.2008, 19:59
- WARNING: your answers made me dangerously smart :-D - DOS386, 11.11.2008, 15:02
- WARNING: your answers made me dangerously smart :-D - Japheth, 07.12.2008, 15:04
- minor bug: REP CMPSB - Rugxulo, 07.12.2008, 20:28
- minor bug: REP CMPSB - Japheth, 07.12.2008, 22:37
- minor bug: REP CMPSB - Rugxulo, 07.12.2008, 20:28
- WARNING: your answers made me dangerously smart :-D - Japheth, 07.12.2008, 15:04
- JWasm v1.93 is out - Japheth, 29.10.2008, 13:59
- JWasm v1.93 is out - DOS386, 29.10.2008, 09:46
- JWasm v1.94 - Japheth, 19.12.2008, 18:19
- JWasm v1.94a and b - Japheth, 21.12.2008, 15:05
- JWasm v1.94a and b - Rugxulo, 23.12.2008, 07:13
- JWasm v1.94a, b and c - Japheth, 24.12.2008, 12:50
- JWasm v1.94a, b and c and 1.95 pre - DOS386, 29.12.2008, 01:27
- Reason isn't easy to find ... - Japheth, 29.12.2008, 08:31
- JWasm and FASM are more robust than others - Rugxulo, 29.12.2008, 23:28
- FASM is inferior for DOS programming - Japheth, 30.12.2008, 08:10
- FASM can't understand OMF ".OBJ" files - Rugxulo, 30.12.2008, 20:14
- FASM can't understand OMF ".OBJ" files - Japheth, 01.01.2009, 19:33
- FASM can't understand OMF ".OBJ" files - Rugxulo, 02.01.2009, 04:45
- FASM can't brew (!) OMF ".OBJ" files OBJCONV port it away - DOS386, 02.01.2009, 10:39
- FASM can't brew (!) OMF ".OBJ" files OBJCONV port it away - Japheth, 02.01.2009, 11:14
- I like the bin format - ecm, 02.01.2009, 19:00
- FASM lacks OMF/OBJ support (16- / 32-bit) - Rugxulo, 02.01.2009, 19:59
- FASM lacks OMF/OBJ support (16- / 32-bit) - ecm, 02.01.2009, 22:36
- FASM lacks OMF/OBJ support (16- / 32-bit) - DOS386, 04.01.2009, 11:17
- FASM lacks OMF/OBJ support (16- / 32-bit) - Rugxulo, 04.01.2009, 21:26
- FASM lacks OMF/OBJ support (16- / 32-bit) - DOS386, 04.01.2009, 11:17
- FASM lacks OMF/OBJ support (16- / 32-bit) - ecm, 02.01.2009, 22:36
- FASM lacks OMF/OBJ support (16- / 32-bit) - Rugxulo, 02.01.2009, 19:59
- I like the bin format - ecm, 02.01.2009, 19:00
- FASM can't brew (!) OMF ".OBJ" files OBJCONV port it away - Japheth, 02.01.2009, 11:14
- FASM can't understand OMF ".OBJ" files - Japheth, 01.01.2009, 19:33
- FASM is superior for DOS programming - DOS386, 30.12.2008, 22:40
- FASM can't understand OMF ".OBJ" files - Rugxulo, 30.12.2008, 20:14
- FASM is inferior for DOS programming - Japheth, 30.12.2008, 08:10
- JWasm and FASM are more robust than others - Rugxulo, 29.12.2008, 23:28
- Reason isn't easy to find ... - Japheth, 29.12.2008, 08:31
- JWasm v1.94a, b and c and 1.95 pre - DOS386, 29.12.2008, 01:27
- JWasm v1.94a, b and c - Japheth, 24.12.2008, 12:50
- JWasm v1.94a and b - Rugxulo, 23.12.2008, 07:13
- JWasm v1.94a and b - Japheth, 21.12.2008, 15:05
- JWasm BANNED - DOS386, 22.03.2009, 05:10
- No - Japheth, 22.03.2009, 06:42
- Overlay swopping and segment macros - ecm, 22.03.2009, 11:49
- No - Rugxulo, 27.03.2009, 17:00
- No - Japheth, 28.03.2009, 07:11
- No - Japheth, 22.03.2009, 06:42
- JWasm v1.8pre | killing MA$M now ??? - DOS386, 18.06.2008, 12:23