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posted by Rugxulo Homepage, Usono, 08.11.2010, 22:27

> I won't bother anyway.

dumb

> I'm not the dos platform maintainer (there isn't any
wonder why

> some people do fixes as they come by them, but that's it).

not enough

> Keep in mind that I'm here because of TUI interest, not dos in
> the strictest sense.
good for you

> So the current ones work,

2.17, yes

> the new ones are broken,

2.19, yes ... or it could be FPC's fault, but I doubt it here

> and we received no fixes from interested Dos users
you don't NEED 2.19, just thought it would be better somehow, why slum it?

> What could we do other than shipping the old ones?
patch BinUtils or workaround it in FPC proper

> XP is not a target for the dos distribution. The Go32v2 target is meant for
> Dos and Win98. On NT systems, use the win32 or win64 distribution
dumb ... XP SP3 is still supported by MS, and NTVDM is dated 2008 ... and these UPX'd BinUtils have been proven to be 2x slower than unpacked (but you can't even unpack these particular ones!!)

> Sure, if I have my way it disappears from the distro. Something everybody
> must decide for themselves, but I don't see a reason for FPC to package is
> (which sounds like a recommendation), and worse, to do version maintenance
> on it.
Anybody who wants it probably already has it. I just thought that, as long as you had it, you might want latest / free-est, etc. Guess not. (dumb ... and it was handed to you on a silver platter, sheesh)

> > Both CWS and I tested r7 with various things (
>
> The trouble is that there is no group of heavy users for FPC/Go32v2 anymore
> that can validate any of such changes. And the current set IS validated by
> a set of users that used it every day.
obviously not ... and you are clearly not the person to tell ... if all the FPC developers are this stubborn, they deserve whatever scorn they get, it's just dumb to ignore clear improvements from the obvious target audience

And just for clarity, like I said, if you're that paranoid, include r5 AND r7 ... but if you think 2x slower speed and/or swapping due to low space for page tables on 1 GB RAM machines is rare, then you're lying to yourself. Do you want GO32V2 to die? Does it really offend you that much? Then surely you're at the wrong message board.

I was going to benchmark rebuilding the compiler for you, but it's far from obvious how to do that from a DOS-hosted FPC compiler. Maybe I did it wrong, but I suspect nobody tries (re)building with the DOS-hosted version.

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