FASM's license (Announce)
> Tastes vary. Besides, too many small instructions on the far left make the
> source file VERY long with lots of blanks at the right edge. (Surely you
> don't comment every single line, do you?)
No, but I consider a "blank" right edge easier to read. I also insert blank lines to separate blocks of instructions that belong together. (Though the block size is usually > 5 instructions.)
> Also he made some shortcuts to
> simplify things (ax=1 ++di es=0B800h). It's really only if you like his
> style or just want to cram everything to be more dense, (arguably) easier
> to read.
mov ax, 1
inc di
push 0B800h
pop es
Is this what the above code would produce? I don't see such a shortening as better at all: "inc" is defined to affect flags, whereas with "++di" it's implicit; assuming my translation is correct. If the "compiler" works around this by using another instruction or saving the flags or remembering which instructions affected the flags, it arguably creates non-optimal code or does too much of its work behind the user's back. (Also I know that push imm is 186+ yeah.)
> Somewhat yes, but it wasn't that hard before! It's not like they
> forgot how they did it all these years. Besides, how hard can it be to just
> save/restore registers across calls? Not very.
Think 16 bit.
> "Should be", yeah, but never are. 32-bit assumptions, POSIX 2008,
> everything-is-*nix, etc.
Most of that should be possible to be worked around by the compiler - even if generating 16-bit code. The only problem is probably code size - can't fit no POSIX-compatible system in 1 MiB.
> Face it, DOS is (or was) widespread, lots of good software,
What? Yes, there was good software, but there was a lot of crap too. I relate that to how widespread it was. Everyone wrote DOS programs - of course most of them were not that good.
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Complete thread:
- NASM version 2.09 available - rr, 25.08.2010, 13:27 (Announce)
- NASM version 2.09 available - DOS386, 26.08.2010, 09:10
- NASM version 2.09 available - ecm, 26.08.2010, 20:10
- NASM version 2.09 available - DOS386, 27.08.2010, 03:16
- NASM version 2.09 available - marcov, 27.08.2010, 17:10
- NASM version 2.09 available - Rugxulo, 28.08.2010, 04:53
- NASM version 2.09 available - ecm, 30.08.2010, 21:40
- NASM version 2.09 available - Rugxulo, 03.09.2010, 05:51
- NASM version 2.09 available - Arjay, 03.09.2010, 13:14
- NASM version 2.09 available - ecm, 03.09.2010, 14:40
- NASM version 2.09 available | 8086 is COOOOL - DOS386, 06.09.2010, 20:06
- NASM version 2.09 available | 8086 is COOOOL - Rugxulo, 06.09.2010, 22:27
- NASM version 2.09 available | 8086 is COOOOL - DOS386, 06.09.2010, 22:37
- NASM version 2.09 available | 8086 is COOOOL - Arjay, 07.09.2010, 18:19
- NASM version 2.09 available | 8086 is COOOOL - ecm, 07.09.2010, 18:53
- NASM version 2.09 available | 8086 is COOOOL - Arjay, 07.09.2010, 18:19
- NASM version 2.09 available | 8086 is COOOOL - Arjay, 07.09.2010, 07:33
- NASM version 2.09 available | 8086 is COOOOL - ecm, 07.09.2010, 16:22
- NASM version 2.09 available | 8086 is COOOOL - Rugxulo, 07.09.2010, 16:59
- NASM version 2.09 available | 8086 is COOOOL - Arjay, 07.09.2010, 18:04
- NASM version 2.09 available | A86 - ecm, 07.09.2010, 19:15
- NASM version 2.09 available | A86 - Arjay, 07.09.2010, 19:58
- NASM version 2.09 available | A86 - ecm, 07.09.2010, 22:42
- NASM 2.09 available | A86 | FASM | Arjay's 8086+80386 PC's - DOS386, 08.09.2010, 01:05
- FASM and OMF - Japheth, 08.09.2010, 09:26
- 16-bit DOS COBOL, 16-bit DOS PASCAL, 16-bit DOS C, 16-bit - DOS386, 08.09.2010, 19:40
- 16-bit DOS COBOL, 16-bit DOS PASCAL, 16-bit DOS C, 16-bit - ecm, 08.09.2010, 19:45
- 16-bit DOS COBOL, 16-bit DOS PASCAL, 16-bit DOS C, 16-bit - DOS386, 08.09.2010, 19:53
- FASM is copylefted - ecm, 08.09.2010, 20:02
- 16-bit DOS COBOL, 16-bit DOS PASCAL, 16-bit DOS C, 16-bit - DOS386, 08.09.2010, 19:53
- 16-bit DOS COBOL, 16-bit DOS PASCAL, 16-bit DOS C, 16-bit - ecm, 08.09.2010, 19:45
- 16-bit DOS COBOL, 16-bit DOS PASCAL, 16-bit DOS C, 16-bit - DOS386, 08.09.2010, 19:40
- NASM - FASM - ecm, 08.09.2010, 15:09
- NASM 2.09 available | A86 | FASM | Arjay's 8086+80386 PC's - Arjay, 08.09.2010, 22:12
- NASM 2.09 available | A86 | FASM | Arjay's 8086+80386 PC's - DOS386, 11.09.2010, 01:23
- NASM - FASM license - ecm, 11.09.2010, 01:53
- NASM 2.09 available | A86 | FASM | Arjay's 8086+80386 PC's - Arjay, 13.09.2010, 13:31
- NASM 2.09 available | A86 | FASM | Arjay's 8086+80386 PC's - DOS386, 11.09.2010, 01:23
- FASM and OMF - Japheth, 08.09.2010, 09:26
- NASM 2.09 available | A86 | FASM | Arjay's 8086+80386 PC's - DOS386, 08.09.2010, 01:05
- NASM version 2.09 available | A86 - ecm, 07.09.2010, 22:42
- NASM version 2.09 available | A86 - Rugxulo, 08.09.2010, 06:56
- NASM version 2.09 available | A86 - Arjay, 07.09.2010, 19:58
- NASM version 2.09 available | 8086 is COOOOL - Rugxulo, 08.09.2010, 06:28
- NASM version 2.09 available | A86 - ecm, 07.09.2010, 19:15
- NASM version 2.09 available | A86 and kernels - ecm, 07.09.2010, 18:42
- NASM version 2.09 available | A86 and kernels - Rugxulo, 08.09.2010, 06:49
- NASM version 2.09 available | A86 and kernels - ecm, 08.09.2010, 20:30
- NASM version 2.09 available | A86 and kernels - ecm, 11.09.2010, 12:27
- Debian/OW ... FASM - Rugxulo, 11.09.2010, 23:44
- Debian/OW ... FASM - ecm, 12.09.2010, 02:40
- Debian/OW ... FASM - Rugxulo, 12.09.2010, 04:18
- Debian/OW ... FASM - ecm, 12.09.2010, 14:29
- FASM's license - Rugxulo, 12.09.2010, 22:18
- FASM's license - ecm, 12.09.2010, 23:12
- FASM's license - Rugxulo, 13.09.2010, 01:49
- FASM's license - ecm, 13.09.2010, 14:13
- FASM's license - Rugxulo, 13.09.2010, 22:27
- FASM's license - ecm, 14.09.2010, 15:50
- FASM's license - Rugxulo, 15.09.2010, 23:29
- FASM's license - ecm, 16.09.2010, 00:03
- code density - Rugxulo, 16.09.2010, 21:10
- code density - ecm, 17.09.2010, 14:15
- code density - Rugxulo, 17.09.2010, 23:06
- code density - ecm, 18.09.2010, 02:18
- code density - Rugxulo, 19.09.2010, 20:23
- code density - ecm, 19.09.2010, 20:27
- this messy thread - DOS386, 13.10.2010, 04:17
- this messy thread - Rugxulo, 13.10.2010, 04:50
- this messy thread - ecm, 14.10.2010, 13:01
- this messy thread - Rugxulo, 13.10.2010, 04:50
- this messy thread - DOS386, 13.10.2010, 04:17
- code density - ecm, 19.09.2010, 20:27
- code density - Rugxulo, 19.09.2010, 20:23
- code density - ecm, 18.09.2010, 02:18
- code density - Rugxulo, 17.09.2010, 23:06
- code density - ecm, 17.09.2010, 14:15
- code density - Rugxulo, 16.09.2010, 21:10
- FASM's license - ecm, 16.09.2010, 00:03
- FASM's license - Rugxulo, 15.09.2010, 23:29
- FASM's license - ecm, 14.09.2010, 15:50
- FASM's license - Rugxulo, 13.09.2010, 22:27
- FASM's license - ecm, 13.09.2010, 14:13
- FASM's license - Rugxulo, 13.09.2010, 01:49
- FASM's license - ecm, 12.09.2010, 23:12
- FASM's license - Rugxulo, 12.09.2010, 22:18
- Debian/OW ... FASM - ecm, 12.09.2010, 14:29
- Debian/OW ... FASM - Rugxulo, 12.09.2010, 04:18
- Debian/OW ... FASM - ecm, 12.09.2010, 02:40
- Debian/OW ... FASM - Rugxulo, 11.09.2010, 23:44
- NASM version 2.09 available | A86 and kernels - Rugxulo, 08.09.2010, 06:49
- NASM version 2.09 available | 8086 is COOOOL - tom, 07.09.2010, 19:58
- NASM version 2.09 available | 8086 is COOOOL - Rugxulo, 08.09.2010, 06:58
- NASM version 2.09 available | 8086 is COOOOL - Arjay, 07.09.2010, 18:04
- 8086 is fairly useless - tom, 07.09.2010, 19:47
- 8086 is fairly useless - ecm, 07.09.2010, 19:55
- NASM version 2.09 available | 8086 is COOOOL - Rugxulo, 07.09.2010, 16:59
- NASM version 2.09 available | 8086 is COOOOL - DOS386, 06.09.2010, 22:37
- NASM version 2.09 available | 8086 is COOOOL - Arjay, 07.09.2010, 07:26
- NASM version 2.09 available | NASM manual - ecm, 07.09.2010, 16:30
- NASM version 2.09 available | 8086 is COOOOL - Rugxulo, 06.09.2010, 22:27
- NASM version 2.09 available - Rugxulo, 13.10.2010, 06:15
- NASM version 2.09 available | 8086 is COOOOL - DOS386, 06.09.2010, 20:06
- NASM version 2.09 available - Rugxulo, 03.09.2010, 05:51
- NASM version 2.09 available - ecm, 30.08.2010, 21:40
- NASM version 2.09 available - Rugxulo, 28.08.2010, 04:53
- 8086-NASM - Japheth, 14.09.2010, 15:04
- 8086-JWASM - ecm, 14.09.2010, 15:33
- NASM version 2.09 available - ecm, 26.08.2010, 20:10
- NASM version 2.09 available - DOS386, 26.08.2010, 09:10