DOS ain't dead - PCI phased out?

PCI phased out? (Announce)

posted by marcov, 10.02.2011, 16:02

> famous PC INCOMPATIBLE architecture

??

Well, ISA is gone a long time too, and people complained as hard when the DIN keyboard was exchanged for the PS/2. Or ISA by PCI.

> It is based on intel H57 and
> completly lacks PCI, IDE, FDC, COM, LPT, PS/2... just PCI-E, SATA and USB.

Actually several modern boards have COM pinheaders on the mobo. They are just not connected. The flat-cable with (9 or 25 pins) serial port can be found easily and cheaply (but unfortunately if you order only one, the shipping costs will be magnitudes larger than the price. We need at least one COM per system, so we bought a bunch of them at low cost)

I do miss PS/2 kbd and mouse though. While USB2 kbd/mouse works far better on somewhat recent systems than when it on older systems(*) , the plug and play nature can cause funky behaviour if other devices are plugged in on the bus.

To be honest, I never really liked USB, and avoid it if I reasonably can (e.g. I buy ESATA HDs, and firewire in the past). Basically I only use it for printer and sticks.

Won't miss floppy too. Used one only two times in the last 6-7 years, both times for bios recovery, but this increasingly works with USB thumbdrives too

> Only one step remains - replace BIOS with EFI (EFI may contain BIOS
> compatibility module but I suspect it would be buggy and slow and quickly
> disappear).

I actually can't wait for that to happen. Kills the MBR and finally no primary partition limit (and/or other special partition handling) anymore.
But that is from a *nix perspective.

(*) and still, devices that have mouse+kbd with the same USB plug (nested HID device) often don't work properly preboot.

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Complete thread:

PCI phased out? - marcov, 09.02.2011, 12:51 (Announce)
- PCI phased out? - RayeR, 09.02.2011, 16:24
  - PCI phased out? - marcov, 10.02.2011, 16:02
    - PCI phased out? - RayeR, 10.02.2011, 17:57
      - PCI phased out? - marcov, 10.02.2011, 21:10
        PCI phased out? - RayeR, 11.02.2011, 00:25
        PCI phased out? - marcov, 11.02.2011, 10:56
        PCI phased out? - RayeR, 12.02.2011, 02:34
        PCI phased out? - marcov, 12.02.2011, 12:45
        PCI phased out? - Rugxulo, 12.02.2011, 21:28
        PCI phased out? - DOS386, 13.02.2011, 06:02
        PCI phased out? - RayeR, 13.02.2011, 16:11
        PCI phased out? - DOS386, 14.02.2011, 09:27
        PCI phased out? - marcov, 14.02.2011, 10:29
        NTVDM speed (or lack thereof) - Ninho, 15.02.2011, 12:26
        NTVDM speed (or lack thereof) - Rugxulo, 15.02.2011, 14:26
        NTVDM speed (or lack thereof) - marcov, 15.02.2011, 14:33
        NTVDM speed (or lack thereof) - Ninho, 15.02.2011, 20:27
        NTVDM speed (or lack thereof) - Rugxulo, 15.02.2011, 23:21
        NTVDM speed (or lack thereof) - marcov, 16.02.2011, 09:24
        NTVDM speed (or lack thereof) - Ninho, 16.02.2011, 20:04
        NTVDM speed (or lack thereof) - RayeR, 16.02.2011, 01:50
        NTVDM speed (or lack thereof) - Rugxulo, 16.02.2011, 02:24
        NTVDM speed (or lack thereof) - RayeR, 16.02.2011, 10:41
        NTVDM speed (or lack thereof) - rr, 17.02.2011, 20:33
        PCI phased out? - RayeR, 14.02.2011, 15:45
        PCI phased out? - marcov, 15.02.2011, 13:40
        PCI phased out? - RayeR, 15.02.2011, 15:15
        PCI phased out? - marcov, 15.02.2011, 18:43
        PCI phased out? - RayeR, 15.02.2011, 19:46
        PCI phased out? - marcov, 16.02.2011, 10:36
        PCI phased out? - RayeR, 16.02.2011, 12:22
        PCI phased out? - marcov, 16.02.2011, 15:38
        PCI phased out? - Rugxulo, 16.02.2011, 19:18
        PCI phased out? - marcov, 16.02.2011, 21:22
        PCI phased out? - Rugxulo, 17.02.2011, 02:28
        EOD (was "PCI phased out?") - DOS386, 17.02.2011, 06:44
        PCI phased out? - marcov, 17.02.2011, 19:44
        PCI phased out? - Rugxulo, 18.02.2011, 08:39
        PCI phased out? - marcov, 18.02.2011, 09:30
        PCI phased out? - Rugxulo, 21.02.2011, 07:43
        PCI phased out? - Rugxulo, 08.03.2011, 23:47
        PCI phased out? - Rugxulo, 11.03.2011, 00:06
        PCI phased out? - roytam, 11.03.2011, 07:52
        PCI phased out? - Rugxulo, 17.03.2011, 04:16
        PCI phased out? - Ninho, 19.02.2011, 10:56
        PCI phased out? - Rugxulo, 21.02.2011, 07:15
        PCI phased out? - marcov, 21.02.2011, 14:09
        PCI phased out? - Laaca, 21.02.2011, 14:22
        PCI phased out? - marcov, 21.02.2011, 14:47
        PCI phased out? - roytam, 22.02.2011, 04:26
        PCI phased out? - RayeR, 22.02.2011, 13:29
        PCI phased out? - RayeR, 22.02.2011, 23:44
        PCI phased out? - Ninho, 23.02.2011, 17:39
        PCI phased out? - RayeR, 23.02.2011, 19:47
        PCI phased out? - Ninho, 23.02.2011, 19:56
        PCI phased out? - RayeR, 23.02.2011, 23:27
        PCI phased out? - RayeR, 24.02.2011, 14:37
        PCI phased out? - Rugxulo, 16.03.2011, 04:58
        PCI phased out? - RayeR, 18.02.2011, 14:28
        PCI phased out? - marcov, 18.02.2011, 14:56
        PCI phased out? - roytam, 29.01.2015, 03:45