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posted by RayeR Homepage, CZ, 18.02.2011, 14:28
(edited by RayeR on 18.02.2011, 14:57)

> AES is a special case because it requires a fairly hefty 64-bit integer
> calculation. IIRC SSE has no 64-bit integer. Only the 64-bit ALU has. (well
> and the FPU has comp, bu not logic operations)
Maybe, but in real use it will be limited by memory and IO speed. And current 32bit systems have already 64bit data bus. So you will not get +100% but less. I cannot guess, did you make some benchmark?

> If a related subject comes up I will. And if some parrot means to speak out
> the cliche "this is the year of the Linux desktop", I'll be the first to
> remember him of the fact that that is like the 10th or the 11th year in a
> row that was declared the year that Linux would make it onto the desktop.
They would probably ask you what you did for idea linux on desktop to be more real and when you'll answer that nothing they will be wondering why do you mentoring them...

> Well, you target one specific PC. And for PC high frequency silicon is
> already available, exempting you from the most difficult task. But the
> problem will also be which PC you exactly are going to emulate. For
> newergames you want high freq and fast graphics, while for old games you
> want a perfect timing emulation.
I think that most very old games are not problem to emulate under dosbox but some newer are atill hard to emulate smoothly, even on c2d @3,5GHz. Real power like ~ PIII would be needed.

I was talking with friend (coreboot coder) and he didn't know anything about intel core issue. They are more targeting on AMD because AMD gives them _complette_ specs (intel requires NDA for some low level things). Even he say that AMD has about 5 people who are coding for coreboot and they commited on SVN about 160000 lines of code. So there must be some intention of AMD. I quess they will replace BIOS with coreboot on future mobos. On other hand intel doesn't like coreboot and strictly pushes EFI. So it seems that DOS future depends on AMD and coreboot + seabios...

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> $35 is far from a high price for any software. And it's been that way for
> quite a while. I bought my copy online in 2004 for the same price.
> But Novell DOS 7 (buggier DPMI) was like $125 in 1994. I think even PC-DOS 7
> was similarly priced (and I even saw that on eBay recently for like $50).
> So, relatively speaking, it's a bargain (assuming it works for your needs,
> of course).
I think it is for year 2011, maybe for 2004 would be ok. As I said I downloaded it free (for non-commercial use) from lineo, it might be in 2001-2002....

> Like I said, I only know that DOSEMU x86-64 has to full emulate 16-bit
> real mode stuff, from personal testing. It's very slow for that, annoyingly
> slow (so 64-bit's own alleged speedups overall doesn't cover that wound).
> However, DJGPP (32-bit) stuff is native speed (e.g. Quake). I never tested
> any 16-bit pmode stuff since that's relatively rare these days (oddly).
> I should test again one day soon just for curiosity (HXDEV16 ftw!).
It's a good new there's working 64bit port of DOSEMU :) I didn't hope they will do it. Pure realmode progs are usually older and doesn't need full power but it's fine that 32bit pmode progs runs fine - i think there are still some calls for 16bit functions from 32bit DJGPP programs but probably not so often that would cause big slowdown. So when it is possible for DOSEMU why not for NTVDM...

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