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PCI phased out? (Announce)

posted by RayeR Homepage, CZ, 15.02.2011, 19:46

> True, but in the 64-bit case you don't get umpteen mails from all kinds of
> freaks that say they still have a type X-1 in some god forgotten corner
> (and of course they don't even explicitely say they actually want to run
> the software on the device, just that they "have" it)
Yes it's very comfortable from programmer's view but disliked from user view. Like putting a gun to head and say buy better HW or die. In extreme case user will got 0% performance gain, 2x memory consumption just because someone decided to use 64bit compiler even if it wouldn't use any new instruction.

> You might occasionally get a catty response that way.
Yes I sometimes got them. But didn't expected it on DOS forum.

> (at home I want 64-bit, at work we are dependant on certain 32-bit drivers
> and a 32-bit only compiler (damn you Borland/Embarcadero!))
I also have to downgrade new machine at work to 32bit bacause of Orcad and Altium. So I have unused 4GB of memory there but don't care a lot because 32bit XP are less memory hungry (and used apps too) :). But it was decision of our IT that we need it :)

> Better than creating an own bios from start?
It depends... On 3rd party HW I don't have any docs, schematics, sources so it's hard to fix. If I would start my design I will know about all GPIO connections etc. and then can modify e.g. coreboot + seabios to fit.

> > complex HW design is not a piece of cake (like for 8-bit computers).
>
> The heavy Amiga's were more complex than early PCs. They are more or less
> 386s.

I was talking about 8-bit computers and Amiga was AFAIK based od 32-bit motorola 68000 later 68030,40,60... So it may be comparable to 486 PC.

> That is only cheaper when you go to extreme volumes. And there is no reason
> why you can't order your prints in China. I know we did for a while.
Yes we also do. But for a single prototype it doesn't have any advantage. But if someone in china will take it seriously and create something like dingoo gaming console it will be cheap. And I belive that DOS is more popular in china (China DOS Union, but because of language barrier we don't hear about them much often) than here so maybe someone will realize it :) For me as a single person it will take years using free time.

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