32-bit MSDOS (Announce)
> > > > My vision of what MSDOS should have become in the late 1980s is
> here:
> > > >
> > > > http://pdos.org
> > >
> > > what does it better than MSDOS?
> >
> > It is 32-bit instead of 16-bit if you wish
> > to have that.
>
> nobody cares about the bitness of the OS.
I care. I want to be able to write 32-bit
applications and be able to debug them by
putting debug into the OS, not just the
application.
And if my computer hangs, I want to be able
to debug the OS.
And if I spend time debugging the OS, and
getting familiar with it, I want to be able
to create a commercial derivative of it
without restriction. And for that I need it
to be public domain.
And if I enable paging but keep V = R, to
enable memory protection, I want an MVS-style
dump produced. I already have proof of concept
for that with divide by zero.
If you don't have the same requirements,
that's fine. But don't say "nobody". I'm
not trying to win Miss America, I'm trying
to create a pristine programming environment.
> people care if the performance of
> the OS is faster/slower, but not if it has more bits.
Applications are normally bottlenecked in
the application, not in the OS.
> anyDOS can execute 32-bit DOOM.EXE.
> PDOS can't - at any speed.
>
> where is PDOS advantage?
I don't want to run DOOM.EXE. I want to
run GCCWIN.EXE and GCC386.EXE.
I'm a programmer, not a gamer.
Regardless, I don't know what the internals
of DOOM are, but if it just wants to take
control of the hardware, it can do that
under PDOS. It needs to be compiled to one
of the two supported formats though. If it
doesn't come with C source code you won't
be able to do that currently.
BFN. Paul.
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