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posted by kerravon E-mail, Ligao, Free World North, 05.07.2021, 23:55

> > > In particular when you have only a tiny subset of the features of
> > > Windows and refuse to add even standard things such as segments,
> > > threads or networking.
>
> > That "tiny subset" allows a complete toolchain
> > and editor to run, enabling you to reconstruct
> > the entire world at your leisure.
>
> Now you only need people who like to use their
> leisure time to build a world without using internet.
The serial port predated the internet and is
available via INT 14H. It is my intention to
have ATDnews.eternal-september.org:119
work. I may modify SeaBIOS to do it, to get it
to convert serial port into bluetooth/wifi for
systems without a real serial port.

> > > Not everything is as "insidious" as GPL. There also is LGPL and
> > > MIT, BSD, CC and other licenses are actually quite relaxed.
>
> > All of them designed to prevent the public from
> > owning that functionality.
>
> Has "the public" complained about that, apart from you?
Certainly not a majority. And?

> > And always open to the copyright holders deciding
> > that their interpretation of their license on their
> > copyrighted code requires more mentions, e.g. daily
> > popups. A judge will decide on that. Microsoft can
> > probably afford enough lawyers to win. Not everyone
> > can. Wouldn't touch any of them with a 10 foot pole.
>
> Maybe you should start to actually read the BSD, MIT
> or CC license. It would take less than 27 years, but
> maybe you are too busy preaching and being paranoid.
I would call the people slapping copyright notices
on their freeware as the ones who are "paranoid",
but it is more likely to be insidious than paranoid.

It's more likely to be stupidity than either of
those, but it's difficult to tell.

What makes you think I haven't read those licenses
anyway? I use CC0 myself as a fallback for people
who live in countries that don't recognize "released
to the public domain" as being released to the
public domain. The others have copyright notices
on them.

> > I don't really care what "most users care".
>
> That is obvious. You will have noticed some experts
> have lost interestin this thread because of this.
If "some experts" care about "most users" rather
than "some technical point", so be it. What do
you expect me to do about that? ie that still
achieves some goal I am aiming for, rather than
achieving someone else's goal.

> > I really don't care what random Russians do.
>
> Why should we care what random PD programmers do?
I'm not asking you to care, am I? I'm just letting
you know that you now have some PD software available
which you can use as a base and stick your favorite
virus license on or whatever you want. If that
doesn't help you achieve some goal you have, I
don't expect you to care at all.

> > What I care about is American (and other countries)
> > companies who refuse to touch anything with a
> > copyright notice, and develop their product from
> > scratch instead. And pass that development cost
> > on to the consumer. Everyone loses.
>
> So apparently Microsoft and Apple are not American
> companies. They include open source to reduce cost.
American companies willing to take their chances
with copyrighted open source code are not the
ones that I am targeting. I am targeting the ones
who won't touch copyrighted "freeware" with a 10
foot pole and would rather develop a solution from
scratch.

> > I have my own copyright-free product, and certain
> > people in the world know the value of that
>
> Given that less than 100 people care, who cares?
I'm not sure that figure is actually correct. If
100% of the world actually knew PDOS existed, I
think you would find a lot more than 100 people
cared. But regardless, I'm not trying to win
Miss America. I am trying to solve a problem I
see. I support capitalism, but monopolies are a
natural phenomenon in capitalism, and require
government intervention to end. For whatever
reason, the US government hasn't stepped in and
broken up IBM and Microsoft, and someone else,
like the CSIRO, hasn't spent their time developing
competing products. I literally have nothing
better to do than take up that technical
challenge myself.

BFN. Paul.

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